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Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« on: April 29, 2007, 04:13:06 am »
Can you help me with  exact PRICE and QUALITY of these coins of Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa.Thank you!!

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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2007, 04:14:54 am »

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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2007, 09:16:28 am »
Both coins seem to be fakes from modern dies, so they have very little value.
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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2007, 10:55:47 am »
Maximinus A,

Mr. Clay is an expert; I'd "bet the farm" that he's correct.

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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2007, 11:05:21 am »
Thank you,but can you tell me exact price in US dolars,because I am new collector,I don't know the true price ot both coins.Thank you

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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2007, 11:08:39 am »
Curtis is correct as is so often the case. These are modern fakes and so price is negligable.

The Ant. Pius is a know Lipanoff. Here is another example from the fake boards:-



The Otacilia Severa is derived from Lipanoff copies too. Here is a die match for the obvsere from the fakes board:-



Regards,
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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2007, 11:32:58 am »
I don't understand you.Do you say that te coins are  copies???

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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2007, 12:29:00 pm »
They are modern forgeries so a price can not be determined.

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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2007, 01:33:11 pm »
They are not forgeries,how you can recognize them?These coins were found under the ground.And please tell me te price if you know it .bullshits

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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2007, 01:40:38 pm »
You can believe what you like. There is no need for rudeness. You have been informed by a world authority that they look like modern reproductions. You will not believe what you are being told regardless.

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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2007, 02:31:53 pm »
It´s no the first time you can find a false coin under the ground. I know at least to times more. Of course, you can believe me or not, but these things happens.

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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2007, 06:17:16 pm »
They're both blatant forgeries.
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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2007, 07:04:06 pm »
Maximinus A,

People in this forum have the unprecedented luxury of being able to get a free opinion from renowned world-class experts like Mr Clay, so please, appreciate this fact and understand that rudeness is completely out of place. Having said that, everybody's free to believe what they want...

With kind regards,
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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2007, 02:59:41 am »
O.K.If the coins are replicas,tell me where they were made,because if they are very good?

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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2007, 03:51:28 am »
Hi Maximinus A!

The Ant. Pius is a know Lipanoff.
The Otacilia Severa is derived from Lipanoff copies too.

And Maridunum was so kind to proof that by showing you the examples from the Fake Gallery! Lipanoff is a known forgerer from Bulgaria. So, I think, your question is answered.

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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2007, 04:25:52 am »
The Lipanoff replica from Bulgaria often turn up on the market purporting to be legit. They have all been published and the book is available to purchase here from Forvm if you so desire:-
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=B1170q00.jpg&vpar=910&zpg=6453
If a coin turns up made from the dies illustrated in this book, such as your coins, then we can easily determine that they are modern fakes.
Some people have even made casts of these fakes and sell those.
Regards,
Martin

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Re: Antoninus Pius and Otacilia Severa
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2007, 04:33:41 am »
Thank you for expert opinion,and I must give my excuse to all experts in that forum.Thank you.

 

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