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« on: March 26, 2007, 12:49:53 pm »

Hello,

I recently bought these 3 islamic dirhams but now doubts arise whether they are genuine or not.
A friend of mine already showed me a second arab sasanian dirham whith identical dies on the obverse and reverse.

Islam1 weighs 3,4 grams, islam2 weighs 3,7 grams, and islam3 5,4 grams.

What do the specialists think?
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2007, 12:51:12 pm »

Here is the Arab sasanian
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2007, 03:22:36 pm »

Are all three from the same dealer?  With the similar toning on all three, it would raise flags, but would not make it certain that they are fakes.

The Arab-Sasanian coin weighs 5.4 grams?   If so, it is a fake!  Arab-Sasanian coins rarely weigh over 4 grams, with most around 3.8 grams.

As for the other two, I also believe their weights are off, but would have to send more time checking my references.
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2007, 11:54:47 pm »

Yes, all 3 are from the same, ahem, ebay seller.
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2007, 05:56:36 am »

The top two Umayyad coins are also overweight.  Mitchiner does not list a single Umayyad Dirhem over 3.0 grams.  Most are in the 2.6 to 2.9 grams range.  Looks like these are also most likely fakes.
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