Another piece of the Stobi puzzle

[whitetd49]

I had to go to the photofiles for this one.   I know of only one other specimen of this die pair (V7, R unlisted).  Thus, this coin is part of a huge late emission that includes obverses V6, V52 and an unlisted obverse.  I have attached the die match I found and another specimen illustrating the similar reverse legends.

[Arminius]

This may be from the same obverse die:

Stobi in Macedonia, Caracalla, 209-217 AD.,
Æ25 (25-26 mm / 7,79 g),
Obv.: A C M AVR ANTONINVS , laureate and cuirassed bust of the older Caracalla right, seen from behind.
Rev.: MVNICI - STOBE , Zeus seated left, holding Nike before, scepter behind.

Regards

[whitetd49]

Note the higher forehead, not as brutish a portrait, so V4.  I believe it is Josifovski 527 (V4, R4) but I have no picture.  In the great scheme of things, this obverse die cannot be placed with certainty.  It may well be part of the V7 group or not.  Here is V7 with a very similar unlisted reverse die - it would seem to support the notion that V4 belongs with the V7 grouping.

[Arminius]

  ... and another specimen of the well known left looking portrait "younger Caracalla Augustus in armour":

Stobi in Macedonia, Caracalla, (i would say) struck ca. 200-208 AD.,
Æ27 (25-27 mm / 11,88 g),
Obv.: [IM] C M [AV] - ANTO[NIN]V , laureate, cuirassed, draped bust of Caracalla left, seen from front.
Rev.: [M]VNIC - STOBE[N?] , Nike-Nemesis advancing left, carrying wreath and palm, wheel at her feet.
Josifovski 344, V58, R? .

[whitetd49]

I do not think that I can identify either die, they may both be unlisted.  Note the course features of the portrait.  Josifovski had the same problem.  He identifies at least two different dies as V58.  I have attached two examples:

Josif 344 (V58, R63) and V58, R126

[whitetd49]

Note the higher forehead, not as brutish a portrait, so V4.  I believe it is Josifovski 527 (V4, R4) but I have no picture.  In the great scheme of things, this obverse die cannot be placed with certainty.  It may well be part of the V7 group or not.  Here is V7 with a very similar unlisted reverse die - it would seem to support the notion that V4 belongs with the V7 grouping.

Here is a very similar reverse with V4:

[Arminius]

A large 4 assaria denomination in a quite good shape:

Stobi in Macedonia, Septimius Severus, 193-211 AD.,
Æ Tetrassarion (27-28 mm / 15,88 g),
Obv.: IMP L SEP - SEVERVS , laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Septimius Severus right, seen from behind.
Rev.: MVNICIPIY-M - STOBENSIVM , Serapis standing, head left, wearing kalathos, right arm raised, snake draped around left arm and staff, snake´s head near ground, mouth open.
Obverse die (V18) as in Josifovski 132, reverse die (R29) unlisted, a specimen from the same dies see whitetd49´s gallery  SeptSevSerapis.JPG .

Enjoy!

[whitetd49]

...and a better specimen than mine!  This reverse die has the most elaborately coiled snake of the Serapis reverses.  Josifovski only describes these reverses as "with his bent left hand he holds the ends of his robe.  Beside his left hand there is a snake."  I am not fully confident that we understand the relationship of the snake to the arm or a staff or, even, this unusual depiction of Serapis or Asklepios/Serapis.

[Arminius]

 ... and an elegant standing Nike, gently moving her wings :

Stobi in Macedonia, Caracalla, 198-217 AD.,
Æ Diassarion (23-24 mm / 6,33 g),
Obv.: M AVREL - ANTONIN , laureate bust of Caracalla right.
Rev.: MVNICIPIV - STOBENS , Nike standing facing, wings half open and crossed, head left, with wreath in outstretched right hand and palm in her left arm.
Josifovski 418, same obv. die (V99, R ?) .

regards

[whitetd49]

That is definitely a new reverse die.  This is the fourth reverse of this type linked to V99.  In my opinion, some of the best engraving was produced at this time at Stobi.  This makes eight reverse dies now known with this obverse.

[Arminius]

... and - i suppose Josifovski 453:

Caracalla, 198-217 AD., Æ Diassarion (21-22 mm / 6,28 g),
Obv.: M AVRE - ANTONI - NV , laureate bust of Caracalla right.
Rev.: MVNICIP - STOBE , Nike advancing right, stepping on globe, carrying wreath and palm.
Josifovski 453, dies V32 / R147 ;
both sides die match whitetd49 coll.: CaraStobe15.JPG .

A.

[whitetd49]

Josif 453 is actually V109, R147.  So V32, R147 is an unlisted die pair.  These are some of the earliest diassaria produced also linked to V64, V11, and V29.  The majority of their reverses are the familiar NIke adv R and Nike adv R, stepping on a globe.  These are also the portraits that Moushmov and others attributed to Elagabalus.

[Arminius]

Is this also a Stobi obverse of Septimius?

Stobi? in Macedonia?, Septimius Severus?, 193-211 AD.,
Æ 2 assaria (24-25 mm / 10,80 g),
Obv.: ... - SE... , laureate, (draped?) cuirassed bust of Septimius Severus? right, front view.
Rev.: ... , Nike advancing left, carrying wreath and palm.

[whitetd49]

That is a tough one.  First, only tetrassaria are known to be issued for Septimius.  Though the flan is small, the large module issue is confirmed by the weight (> 10 g.).  I think that this specimen is Josif 120 (V6, R6) but I am less certain about the reverse die.  It is at least very similar but V6 was paired with several of these types.  Here is a picture of V6 and an unlisted reverse die.

[whitetd49]

Here is a new coin (V42, R unlisted) that was produced along side with one of the "moon crescent" reverses (V42, R55).  It would seem to lend credence to the notion that the crescent reverses had a different significant meaning.
PS. Think the same engraver produced these?

[arizonarobin]

Well I'm back and have a new addition to my little collection. A very unflattering Julia, but the reverse makes up for it. I was very excited to get this one:

[whitetd49]

Wow, that is a new reverse type, not just reverse die.  I assume that is an AE 23-24?  The closest known type is a large module (AE 27) for Septimius:  Z. Nike standing, radiate head left, holding snake-entwined torch left and   
      cornucopia right.
   i. Septimius Severus, L (R27)

PS.  Robin, you have been holding out on me.  You have several more Stobi issues unposted!

[arizonarobin]

It is 10.46g and 28mm; In hand of course you can see much more of the detail- Im still struggling witih the camera.

PS.  Robin, you have been holding out on me.  You have several more Stobi issues unposted!

Yes I think I do    but this one was more exciting.  I have been off and on the last few months because of health- now that Im back up and running again I will get to posting them. 

~Robin

[Pscipio]

Robin,

can you post a larger picture of your coin? I fear that it has been tooled in modern times.

Lars

[whitetd49]

As I stated above, there is only one known reverse (R27) with Nike-Demeter with head facing left.  It is in a private collection in Macedonia so only Josifovski's picture is available.  Though the quality of the picture is poor, Robin's specimen is clearly a different die.  Her reverse does not look tooled to be but I am no expert on this.  The only oddity that I see is the blundered reverse legend, [MVN?] ST/OBESIVM?

[arizonarobin]

I did buy it from an ancient coin dealer who I believe is very knowledgeable- but I am definitely no expert in
tooling. (I paid 25 GBP) So here is larger images:

[Arminius]

Two more pieces:

Stobi in Macedonia, Vespasian, 73 AD. (later part of year),
Æ Sestertius (30-31 mm / 15,99 g),
Obv.: IMP C[AES VE]SP AVG P M T P COS IIII CENS , laureate head of Vespasian right.
Rev.: MVNICIPI - S[TOBENSIVM] , Genius standing on a low base l., holding tree grain-ears and cornucopia.
Gaebler AMNG III, 111, 2 (1 specimen, Athens) .

Stobi in Macedonia, Septimius Severus, 193-211 AD.,
Æ (25-27 mm / 13,43 g),
Obv.: [IMP L SEP] - SEVERVS , laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Septimius Severus, seen from behind.
Rev.: MVNI-C - STOB[..?] , Nike-Nemesis advancing left, holding wreath and palm, wheel at her feet.
Josifovski 139 ? .

[whitetd49]

I identified the first coin in the COTD thread.

For the second, are you sure about the wheel at her feet?  If so, it would be a new type for Septimius.  In the left field, there is clearly a 'moon crescent', unknown to Josifovski for this ruler.  I have seen only one other specimen with the crescent for Septimius which I will post below.  I do not believe your obverse die with that short beard is listed either.  Nice finds!

[Arminius]

I made a better photo - more clearly showing the wheel:

Æ  4 Assaria (25-27 mm / 13,43 g),
Obv.: [IMP L SEP] - SEVERVS , laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Septimius Severus, seen from behind.
Rev.: MVNI-C - STOB[..?] , Nike-Nemesis advancing left, holding wreath and palm, wheel at her feet, crescent in left field.

[whitetd49]

Great, I will add this new reverse type for Septimius to the list of reverses in the Provincial thread.