English<->German Numismatic Dictionary.

[virtvsprobi]

People often ask for translation of German numismatic terms, so here's a link to a bi-lingual dictionary.

English to German -> Dictionary of commonly used technical terms, for coin collectors
compiled by Claus Hardelt  -- Version: 1.6 -- Date: January 2006

German to English -> Wörterbuch der gebräuchlichsten Fachausdrücke für Münzsammler
zusammengestellt von Claus Hardelt  -- Version: 1.6 -- Datum: Januar 2006

http://www.muenzen-hardelt.de/dic/diction1.html


Additionally, these facilities will help with translating German language auction texts:

http://dict.leo.org/?search=Muenze&lang=en

http://www.dict.cc/

and

http://www.systranet.com/

Systran's verbatim translations (as with BabelFish etc.) are not to be trusted!
Machine translation, especially of heavily idiomatic text, is still a tough nut to crack.

Some of the gist can be garnered from such language conversions, but approach
with extreme caution! Some basic knowledge of the language is always
useful, to sift the chaff of non from the grist of sense.


G/<

P.S. Tip of the web-surfin' hat to <A href="http://coins.reidgold.com/>Reid Goldsborough[/url], for mentioning Herr Hardelt's site on Moneta-L.

[Tom Mullally]

OK, but are there any translating sites for Bulgarian?  I could really use one...


Tom

[virtvsprobi]

are there any translating sites for Bulgarian

The only Slavic language Systran/Babelfish* handle is Russian.
(Not very well, I'm afraid. The translations of Russian<->English text suffer much more mangling than French or German. In both directions.)

You need support for Cyrillic script to enter queries, and relying on Russian for Bulgarian translations is a treacherous path.

For single words there are Bulgarian<->English dictionaries, which are googleable.

http://tinyurl.com/w2bc7
http://tinyurl.com/y8bnky

Some of these also require support for entering Cyrillic characters, others have a JavaScript keyboard interface.
I'm afraid that for bulk translation of Bulgarian to English you are out of luck unless you find a helpful person with
knowledge of both languages.

I was aware that as soon as I posted the German dictionary, someone would request Bulgarian... or Ugaritic.

The plan is to gather all the translation resources within one post. It will take some time/work.

Cheers,

G/<

* - Pretty much all web bulk text translation services are powered by some implementation of SysTran's software.
Might as well go directly to SysTran, as they have the most recent version and more options.

http://www.systranet.com/

[GMoneti]

Here is a Bulgarian-English translator:

http://webtrance.skycode.com/online.asp?current=&lang=en

[virtvsprobi]

Oh, cool!

Though one still needs to know how to enter Bulgarian text, if translating from that language.

G/<

[esnible]

Is there a real book German to English numismatic dictionary?  I've seen the web sites http://www.moruzzi.it/shop/dizionario-trad.htm and http://www.muenzen-hardelt.de/dic/diction1.html but they don't have enough words.

Or is there an unabridged German to English dictionary?

I don't read German *at all*.  The way I "read" German is typing words in Google Translate.  So an unabridged German dictionary would be difficult unless it is a CD-ROM, with definitions I could feed into Google Translate.  Words that Google doesn't know I feed into LEO D-E http://dict.leo.org/ .  That site doesn't have a lot of numismatic words.

Today I encountered the word "Mittelerz".  LEO D-E couldn't translate it at all.  Google thought it meant "Central ore".

I guess "Mittelerz" means "middle bronze", or "As", and "Grosserz" means "great bronze" or "sestersius".  I'd like a dictionary with these kind of terms.

[areich]

Not really. Erz means ore. But what Mittelerz could mean I have no idea.

Googling for it shows that very few entries use it a middle bronze but so few that I'm not sure how official it is.
Mittelerz also means ore of middle quality, better than the common, not as good as 'Stufenerz'.

[Arminius]

As living languages change today´s German children probably may think that Mittelerz - an old expression for middle bronzes - may be a country near Gondor where Frodo and his friends had some adventures fighting the evil powers of the lord of the rings.

It will be hard to create databases or dictionaries including all these changes and variations without the exact reference to a limited time window or cultur group.

So some experts may survive the computer ages as we can not reduce every knowledge to zeroes and ones.

Regards

[esnible]

OK, but are there any translating sites for Bulgarian?  I could really use one...

Google Language Tools, http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en , now translates from Bulgarian.  Their translator is tuned by machine comparisons of United Nations hand-translated documents so it is probably lacks a lot of numismatic words.

[Danny Jones]

This is really helpful. Thanks for the heads up!

[Pekka K]

esnible,

here is some numismatic Bulgarian:

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/moonmoth/bulgarian.html

Pekka K

[Guenter W]

Something about mittelerz, to whom it concerns, you can find here, (unfortunately you have to pay for it after first page):

Halved Coins, the Augustan Reform, and Horace, Odes I.3
von TV Buttrey - 1972 - Each is a mittelerz, and any find report which uses this term disguises the ... Perhaps worse, mittelerz or moyen bronze in the literature regularly ...
www.jstor.org/stable/503609