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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2007, 01:56:20 pm »

3 rare baronial coppers of Levon II, all pulled out from one uncleaned accumulation lot.
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« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2007, 06:59:18 pm »

Here's a coin struck for SALAH AD-DIN YUSUF IBN AYYUB ("Righteousness of the Faith, Joseph, Son of Job") or Saladin:

Saladin, 1169-1193
AYYUBID: Saladin, 1169-1193, AR dirham (2.93), al-Qahira (modern day Cairo), AH586, A-787.2, clear mint & date, double struck, some horn-silvering; VF-EF.


I apologize for the quality of the photo; I shot it with a Sony video camera.
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« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2007, 11:56:06 pm »

Hi

Nice Yusuf coin you have there. I got one of the same mint. An unpublished 1/2 Dirham.

Ayyubids AR Half Dirhem Salah al-Din Al-Qahira ND, citing Al-Nasr

Weight, g: 1.5
Size, mm: 15
Mint: al-Qahira
Date: no date
Denomination: Half Dirham
Metal: AR
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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2007, 01:14:47 am »

Hi Burak,

Very nice coin.

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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2007, 07:35:02 pm »

Gosdantin IV, countermaked takvorin, Star of David

Note the star of David countermark, such a countermark has been recorded only on 2 other coins from Cilician Armenia, both takvorins of Levon IV. This is unrecorded. According to Kurkman-Diler the countermark belongs to the beys of Alaiye, but this has been questioned.

Weight, g: 2.1
Size, mm: 20
Mint: Sis
Denomination: Takvorin
Metal: Debased AR or BI
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« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2007, 08:14:45 pm »

Hi Levon

This is truly a remarkable and important coin. Well done. Let me know if you dont like it anymore. Grin

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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2007, 02:38:53 am »

Levon,

I agree with Burak, except . . . if you decide to part with your beautiful coin let ME know  Smiley.

Here is an AR dirham struck for Saladin:

SALAH AD-DIN YUSUF IBN AYYUB ("Righteousness of the Faith, Joseph, Son of Job"); 1169-1193, AR dirham (2.92g), Halab, AH580, A-788, lovely strike, well-centered & bold, Extremely Fine, Scarce; ex. Stephen Album.
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« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2007, 01:48:57 pm »

haha, thanks guys but, I think this will be a keeper for a while.  Grin
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« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2007, 08:45:47 am »

Alex,

Wow!  Great coins, and the helmet is also amazing. Smiley

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« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2007, 05:49:01 am »

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This coin is great. I think the Islamic coins are far higher quality in design terms to the Western Medieval coins...

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Levon,

I agree with Burak, except . . . if you decide to part with your beautiful coin let ME know  Smiley.

Here is an AR dirham struck for Saladin:

SALAH AD-DIN YUSUF IBN AYYUB ("Righteousness of the Faith, Joseph, Son of Job"); 1169-1193, AR dirham (2.92g), Halab, AH580, A-788, lovely strike, well-centered & bold, Extremely Fine, Scarce; ex. Stephen Album.

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« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2007, 12:51:32 pm »

Here's one English piece I'm partial to from my own collection, partly because I got such a deal on it.



Edward IV groat, London mint. Could anybody get me a more accurate ID on it? I don't have Spinks...
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« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2007, 01:13:19 pm »

It looks like Edward IV, 1st reign, Class II groat, rose mintmark, North 1531 (1960 Ed). Spink (2003 Ed) 1973. I could be wrong though, since some of the details are extremely worn.
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« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2007, 09:56:22 am »

I couldn't decide, so here's one of each, Medieval, Islamic and Crusader:

Saxon: King Cnut (Canute) 1017-1023, Penny

Abbasid Caliph: Al Qahir 932-934, Gold Dinar
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« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2007, 09:59:24 am »

This is not actually a crusader coin, but it comes from a hoard deposited by crusaders near Thessalonika.

Naples: Charles II of Anjou, 1285-1309, AR Bigliato
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« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2007, 08:28:24 pm »

I couldn't decide, so here's one of each, Medieval, Islamic and Crusader:

Saxon: King Cnut (Canute) 1017-1023, Penny

Abbasid Caliph: Al Qahir 932-934, Gold Dinar

Great coins. I have seen your bottom one with the legend 'OFFA REX' across the middle - obviously King Offa of Mercia 9thAD reusing gold coinage or stamping some up for mediterranean trade.

Way cool.

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« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2007, 09:02:59 am »

Hi This one that I have recently bought. Not gold Dinar of Offa but still a nice coin in my opinion. Offa Heavy coinage 1.35 grams .Moneyer Babba from the East Anglia Mints. By the way Alex B - nice coins.
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« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2007, 09:15:13 am »

The top picture is of the obverse of another OFFA that I am hoping to buy soon  and does not go with the BABBA
This is the pic of the obverse I should have posted. Sorry for the confusion.
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« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2007, 04:32:09 pm »

Dear coinagora

It looks to me like both your Offa's are Ashmore replicas. A list is provided in Spink Numismatic Circular April 2000; the coin with only the obverse picture seems to match number 16 in the list, while the other coin matches number 15

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« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2007, 08:17:24 pm »

Dear coinagora

It looks to me like both your Offa's are Ashmore replicas. A list is provided in Spink Numismatic Circular April 2000; the coin with only the obverse picture seems to match number 16 in the list, while the other coin matches number 15

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!!!!!!!!!!! That is very worrying  Undecided

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« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2007, 05:25:00 pm »

Hi all

I have never previously been able to get a decent picture out of any digital camera I have tried, but recently I decided to splurge on a better one, a Canon EOS 400D body with a Sigma 50mm macro lens, and the first results are promising.

I have been experimenting on some of my Islamic pieces and attach a couple from the first batch which I think are pretty decent, both coins and pictures.

I would welcome comments on the coins, and suggestions for improvement of the pictures as well.

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« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2007, 07:38:28 pm »

Hi all

I have never previously been able to get a decent picture out of any digital camera I have tried, but recently I decided to splurge on a better one, a Canon EOS 400D body with a Sigma 50mm macro lens, and the first results are promising.

I have been experimenting on some of my Islamic pieces and attach a couple from the first batch which I think are pretty decent, both coins and pictures.

I would welcome comments on the coins, and suggestions for improvement of the pictures as well.

Best wishes

Alan

Hi Alan

Pretty good photos, silver and black coins are hard to get right. Couple of things, for portrait coins generally, you should have the lighting from above (north) of the coin so as to show the facial features, i dont think you have done that here. Also, subdue the light source a little by filtering it out, maybe a thin white cloth or hankerchief(s) or tissue? This will allow the light but soften it.

Rest assured getting it right is extremely frustrating. Even when you get the right conditions for one coin, they change for the next. I have resorted to a high-res scanner now. Not quite as good (but not far off) but consistent conditions.

Brgds

Alex
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« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2007, 03:49:54 pm »

Harold has a Roman bust style as well, even to useing the left-facing pose which is so common with the emperor bearing shield (if it is a shield) and another object (sceptre in this case).
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« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2007, 07:42:05 pm »

Hi Robert

You could say they all have a Roman-origin (and before that Greek:)), the Offa has more of a direct attempt at copying I feel, than the others. Thus the description 'Romanesqe'. The Harold II is considered a Germanic-style, with the beard and strong features and the Harold I just Anglo-Saxon... I think its armour not a shield.

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« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2007, 11:37:05 pm »

Beautiful!!!
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« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2007, 07:45:37 am »

This is not actually a crusader coin, but it comes from a hoard deposited by crusaders near Thessalonika.

Naples: Charles II of Anjou, 1285-1309, AR Bigliato

The correct denomination is gigliato, not bigliato
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