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« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2007, 10:13:48 am »

Talking about saladin's rare coins,
It is the only coin which bears Saladin's
title Abu al-Muzaffar.
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« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2007, 12:15:06 am »

Very interesting coin and no doubt rare indeed.

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« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2007, 04:04:57 pm »

'Father of the - ?' What's a Muzaffar?
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« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2007, 04:43:45 pm »

Dear Robert
Abu (something), this is called "Laqab" (title) in Arabic.
"Abu " itself means the father or the owner .
for example: Abu al-Fawaris is a "laqab" which refers to a brave man.
The next case is Abu (somebody) which means the father of somebody like Abu al-Muzaffar .
(the father of the victor). al-Muzaffar was Saladin's son.

It is complicated  a little  but every Arabic man must have a "laqab".

Hope I have succeeded to reach the idea to you.

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« Reply #54 on: August 30, 2007, 06:06:47 am »

Got you. We're a bilingual family, so I'm used to the idea that different languages have very different ways of expressing things!
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« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2007, 08:44:37 pm »

No posts in a while, thought I would treat everyone to a little something. Here we go:

Cilician Armenia, Oshin (1308-1320), AR Coronation Tram

Obverse: +ԱՒՇԻՆ ԹԱԳԱՒՈՐ ՀԱՅՈՑ
Reverse: +ԿԱՐՈՂՈՒԹԲՆ ԱՅ Է


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Nercessian "Oshin" #19 - "Artistic Footstool" type below king. "Hand of God" as opposed to angel crowning king on obverse type as well.
Bedoukian "SNS Oshin" #64

These are fairly rare trams from this king, called "coronation" issues due to the fact that there is a hand of God next to the king's head, a "manus dei." While they take design after the more common Levon I drams, these are not. These coins from this ruler are excessively scarce and higher in silver content and weight than his takvorins showing an equestrian king and lion with cross behind walking, an example of which I also posted.

Size, mm: 22-22.5
Mint: -
Date: 1308-1309(?)
Denomination: [Coronation] Tram
Metal: AR

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« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2007, 09:32:45 pm »

HI

Very nice and interesting coin. You can see the design of Frankish/English coins in there too, thus demonstrating the generally homogenus nature of coinage in Christian Europe during the medieval period.

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« Reply #57 on: April 30, 2009, 01:22:32 pm »

very rare Umayyad fals from al-Bab mint (in Armenia),
dated 115 AH .

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« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2009, 01:28:51 pm »

Also unpublished Abbasid fals from Armenia, dated 164AH.

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« Reply #59 on: November 20, 2009, 05:46:36 pm »

I'm more or less a newcomer to Medieval Islamic coinage. 

I received this coin in the mail today.

I know it's a 6-dirham piece of Amir Wali, Album 2343.1 Type D.
The dealer on ebay listed this coin as dated AH 778. 

My question is:  where is the date?  I can't read Arabic, but I can read the Arabic numerals.  I don't seem to be able to find any on the coin. 

Or is this a case where the actual date is written out in words, not numerals?

Any help is much appreciated.
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« Reply #60 on: September 28, 2010, 07:04:59 am »

here is my medieval of the day, i got it in the mail this weekend. not rare but in beautiful shape.

FERDINAND I of Habsburg, king of Hungary AR17mm 0,7gr denar

Unger 745a 1529.
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« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2011, 10:53:05 am »

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Umayyad AE Fals Duck Right 3.9g 16mm
Syria and Palestine no mint no date pictorial type 65-135AH
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« Reply #62 on: October 10, 2011, 04:43:20 pm »

Timurid AR Tanka  4.7g 31mm
Muhammad b. Husayn 903-906AH (countermark 904AH)
Baysunghur, 900-903 (host coin)
Mint Herat (host Bukara) 904AH
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« Reply #63 on: February 23, 2012, 09:33:24 pm »

Got this few month ago - Crusader denier .   County of Jaffa   .
Extremely rare coin .
Obv. :   +  ° DENARIVS °   . Cross.
 Rev.:    + ° lOPPENSIS °   . Gateway.
Anonymous Issue ( mid Thirteenth Century )


"Anonymous billon or copper deniers were struck for Jaffa , bearing a cross and a gateway as types , and the legends +  ° DENARIVS ° /+ ° lOPPENSIS ° . Precisely when these anonymous coins were minted is a matter of speculation , for only one type is known from few specimens . They may possibly be roughly contemporary with the billon and copper deniers of Beirut and Tyre , therefore more likely belonging to the thirteenth century that to the twelfth . Prawer goes so far as to suggest that Gautier of Brienne ( 1221 - 1250 ) had them struck for his county ."

Coins of the Crusader States, by A. G. Malloy, I. F. Preston, and A. J. Seltman
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« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2014, 10:30:07 am »

Aside from my Byzantine collecting interests, I also collect Eastern Medieval, Islamic, and Crusader coins.  So, I figured I'll bridge the gap between the two forums by posting this coin from my collection:


Umayyad Caliphate, Arab-Byzantine: Anonymous (685-692 AD) Æ Fals, Hims (Emesa) Mint (SICA 1, 548; Album-3524; Walker-64)

Obv: Bust of Emperor (Constans II?), facing, wearing a diadem surmounted by cross, paludamentum, and cuirass; in his right hand he holds a globus with cross; at left, Greek ΚΑΛΟΝ (Good); at right, downward, Arabic بحمص (Emesa)
Rev: Large m; star between two wavy lines above; at left, EMI; at right, CHC; in exergue, Arabic طيب (Good)


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« Reply #65 on: September 27, 2014, 07:24:32 am »

A copper fals from the Umayyad Caliphate similar to the dirhams that was issued during the post-reform period of the caliphate.

Umayyad Caliphate: Anonymous (738 AD) AE Fals, Wasit Mint (Walker-941; Lavoix-1522; Nützel 2049-2050; Album-205)

Obv: Within a double circle, لا اله الا الله وحده لا شرك له (There is no God but Allah alone. There are no others with him); five annulets enclosed in outer margin.
Rev: At center, محمد رسول الله (Muhammad is the apostle of Allah); in margin, بسم الله ضرب هذا الفلس بواسط سنة عشرين ومائة (In the name of Allah this fals was struck at Wasit in the year 20 and 100); double outer margin enclosing five annulets.

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« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2014, 06:56:34 am »

Here is a nice Georgian dirham combining Arabic and Christian elements together:

Georgia: Queen T'amar (1184-1213) AE dirham (Koronikov-420; Lang-11b) w. countermark #4

Obv: Bagratid royal emblem in the form of a standard; Georgian initials to left and right: ႧႰ=ႧამაႰ (T'amar) and ႣႧ=ႣავიႧ (David); Georgian initials on top left and top right: ႵႩ=ႵორონიႩონსა (Koronikonsa/Year); Georgian initials on bottom left and bottom right: ႯႩ=420
Rev: Christian inscriptions in arabic script; countermark #4

ملكة الملكات (Malekat al-Malekaat(s); Queen of Queens)
جلال الدنيا و الدين (Jellal Al-Dunya Wal Din; Glory of the World and Faith)
تامارابنة كوركى (Tamar Ibnat Kurki; T'amar daughter of Giorgi)
ظهير المسيح (Zahir Al-Massih; Champion of the Messiah)

The Georgian year is encoded using the "Paschal cycle". This dating system is based on the creation date being March 22, 5604 BC. From this date, they ran through a 532-year cycle. So, Year 1 was March 22, 5604 BC for the 1st cycle. And the 13th cycle's Year 1 was March 22, 781 AD. For years 346 to 532, add 780 to obtain the corresponding year in AD. The year starts off at March 22nd for each AD year. So, 420 + 780 = March 22, 1200 AD. For more information, please see Sweeny...

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Langlois, Victor, Numismatique de la Géorgie au Moyen Âge, A. Leleux, 1852
Пахомов, Евгений, Монеты Грузии, Мецниреба, 1970 (Pakhomov, Evgeny, Coins of Georgia, Metsnireba, 1970)
Sweeny, James O., Tempus in Nummis, Volume 1, Numismatics International, 1992

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« Reply #67 on: November 04, 2014, 03:00:43 pm »

Dear Colleagues,
What are your thoughts about this coin:

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« Reply #68 on: November 04, 2014, 04:43:26 pm »


Bob my Dear friend ,
I know you like to be perfect on your coin presentation


تمار ابنة كوركى

Should be   : تامارابنة كوركى


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« Reply #69 on: November 04, 2014, 05:57:04 pm »


تمار ابنة كوركى

Should be   : تامارابنة كوركى


Thanks you very much Sam.  That is certainly a typoRoll Eyes.  I'll fix the attributions accordingly.  It is difficult for me to transcribe these coins when I can neither read nor write it in Arabic.  Makes me wonder if I have other mistakes in the other coins I posted  Embarrassed.  I'll have to go back and check the references to make sure...

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« Reply #70 on: November 04, 2014, 06:07:21 pm »

I almost knew it , but you are doing a good job.

I will send you a PM about another one.

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« Reply #71 on: November 04, 2014, 06:18:06 pm »

However  Tamar can be written both way تمار and   تامار

Both are correct , but what is written on the coin is تامار

That is why I said "I know you like to be perfect on your coin presentation" because I know you do Thumbs Up
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« Reply #72 on: February 24, 2015, 01:59:30 pm »

Dear friends of medieval coins!


In 1251 the papal legate Odo of Châteauroux came to know that the Franks used to copy Dinars and Dirhems showing the name of Mohammed and his "year of birth".  Since the legate was an experienced preacher and promoter of crusades, who accompanied Louis IX of France on the Seventh Crusade, he informed the pope about this "terrible habit". Innocent IV - he released a corresponding edict in 1253 - threatened anyone, who dares to mint further on such coins (in the "blasphemous name" of Mohammed) with excommunication. Thus over the following years Dirhems with AD date and christian inscribtions were minted.

Based on the Byzantine Solidus, the copies of Fatimid Dinars were named "Bezant".


1.
Jerusalem, Anonymous, Bezant, 2nd phase, imitating a dinar of the Fatimid caliph al-Amir, with mintname Misr (Egypt) and date 519h, 3.54g (BY 19-22 var.; CCS 3; A 730).

2.
Lead seal of Innocent IV
SPA = Sanctus Paulus, SPE = Sanctus Petrus. This side never changed.

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Jerusalem, Anonymous, Silver Dirham, Acre, 1251, Christian legends in Arabic script on both sides, small cross in centre of obverse, 2.70g (BY 45; CCS 15; Metcalf 229-231).

The "cross side":

ا لله واهد هو
الإيمان+واهد
المعموديّى واهد

ALLAH WAHID HU(WA)
AL IMAM + WAHID
AL-MA'MUDIYYA WAHID

Allah allone (one) He is
The faith + one
The babtism one
(One god, one faith, one babtism)

Rim:
ضرب باكّا سنة الف و مئتين و احد و خمسين
(duriba bi-akka sanat alf wa mi'atain wa ahad wa khamsin)
Minted in Acre year thausand and two hundred and one und fifty

Allegedly "LITAJASSUD (of the birth of the messiah)" should follow.


The other side:
الاب و الابن
و الروح القدس
الاه واحد

al-Ab wa al-Bin
wa al-Ruh al-Quds
Ilah wahid

The father and the son / and the holy ghost / one god

Rim:
LAHU AL-MAJD / ILA ABAD / AL-ABADIN / AMIN AMIN
To him is the glory for ever and ever Amen Amen


4.
Pseudo imitation of the Dirhem of the Ayyubid sultan as-Salih Ismail (Dimashq) with frozen AD date (1253)

Ob:
الملك الصالح
عماد الدنيا و الدين
اسمعيل بن أبي بكر

al-Malik as-Salih
Imad ad-Dunya wa 'd-Din
Isma'il bin Abi Bakr

Rim:
بسم / الله / الرحمن / الرحيم
(bism/illah/i r-rachman/i r-rachim)


Rv:
الامام
المستنصر
بالله ابو جعفر
المنصور امير المؤمنين

al-Imam
al-Mustansir
billah Abu Ja'far
al-Mansur Amir al-Mu'minin

Rim:
ضرب بدمشق سنة الف و مئتين وثلث و خمسين
(Duriba bi-Dimashq / sanat alf wa / mi'atain wa thelath / wa khamsin)
Minted in Dimashq year thausand and two hundred and three und fifty

 
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« Reply #73 on: February 24, 2015, 02:14:53 pm »

Nice start.. Thumbs Up
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« Reply #74 on: February 24, 2015, 02:25:42 pm »

Regards & many thanks to qudrans for welcoming me

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