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Offline Pim San

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Greek AE 12 Erythrai?
« on: June 27, 2020, 03:44:55 pm »
Hi,

This coin is a bit worn, still are some texts visibel. I thinks that on the frontside a portret of athena with crested helmet is visible and on the backside there is a text of a magistrate?  It a AE12 made of yellow copper.

It looks remarkably like the coins from Erythrai, but cannot recognize the magistrate.
Any help would be appreciated.

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Pim

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Re: Greek AE 12 Erythrai?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2020, 02:14:17 am »
The magistrate is ΚΟΡΔΥΠΟΣ  EΠIKOYPOY, same as here: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=122606.0

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Re: Greek AE 12 Erythrai?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2020, 03:51:02 am »
Hi Altamura,

It indeed appears to be the same magistrate. I dind't notice the similarety. What coincidence. This example has a 12 mm diameter.  Is it also described by Kinns or is this just a variant  of the one you mentioned in the link?

I did find a coin with this inscription: "IONIA. Erythrai. Ae (133-30 BC). Poseidonios, son of Epikuros, magistrate. Obv: Wreathed and bearded head of Herakles left. Rev: EPY / ΠOΣEIΔΩNIOΣ HPAKΛEOY TOY EΠIKOYROY". Could it be that this Kordupos Epikuros was his father. That would date this coin.

Thanks for you help,

Pim

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Re: Greek AE 12 Erythrai?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2020, 02:34:45 pm »
Quote from: Pim San on June 28, 2020, 03:51:02 am
... This example has a 12 mm diameter.  Is it also described by Kinns or is this just a variant  of the one you mentioned in the link? ...

Ancient coins have been handmade, so there is a certain variation of size and weight within a single type. Bronzes are varying more than silver and gold. So it is the same type.

Quote from: Pim San on June 28, 2020, 03:51:02 am
... Rev: EPY / ΠOΣEIΔΩNIOΣ HPAKΛEOY TOY EΠIKOYROY"[/i][/i]. Could it be that this Kordupos Epikuros was his father. That would date this coin. ...

The coin with ΚΟΡΔΥΠΟΣ  EΠIKOYPOY is dated by Kinns with "c. 220-170 B.C.", the coin with ΠΟΣΕΙΔΩΝΙΟΣ ΗΡΑΚΛΕΟΥ ΤΟΥ EΠIKOYPOY to "c.70-60 B.C.". So they have been probably not father and son.
Besides of that I'm not sure whether EΠIKOYPOΣ in the second case really is a father's name (and in this case on both coins would be the father's name), usually after the TOY follows a city's name or something like that :-\.

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Re: Greek AE 12 Erythrai?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2020, 01:20:30 pm »
I think the last remarks, will make the identification complete.
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Many thanks for your great help
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Pim

 

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