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Offline David Fischer

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Fake Diadumenian?
« on: May 27, 2020, 09:02:54 pm »
I won this Diadumenian at an auction from what I thought was a reputable German auction house, but several people have warned me that this coin is a forgery bsed primarily on the obverse portrait style.



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Offline Dominic T

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Re: Fake Diadumenian?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2020, 09:09:40 pm »
There is a very useful ressource on this site :Fake Coin Report. You can use the "search" fonction to find many forgeries of this Emperor.
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Re: Fake Diadumenian?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2020, 12:56:50 am »
"but several people have warned me that this coin is a forgery bsed primarily on the obverse portrait style"

Who warned you?  ;) ???

Coin was sold in recent auction of a German auction house AS BECKER FORGERY together with other Becker forgeries. They were listed in extra category under Medaillen and there was an extra undercategory  BECKERSCHE FÄLSCHUNGEN, where they were listed  and in description it was clearly stated that they are Becker forgeries (in German "BECKERSCHE FÄLSCHUNGEN") so I do not understand the question!!! They even mentioned the number in Hill (Hill, Becker 191) ;)
This forgery was sold for 75 Euro + buyers premium it should be clear that you can not get an authentic coin if it is sold as fake and price is so low together with other Becker fakes.
The prices of this Becker fakes were in most cases much lower than for authentic ones except maybe the extremely rare Septimius Severus forgery (first one I have seen in my life) that sold for 75 Euro + premium which is about the price for an authentic one or maybe a little bit higher.

Lot description


Los 7333. BECKERSCHE FÄLSCHUNGEN, RÖMISCHE MÜNZEN KAISERZEIT Macrinus für Diadumenianus. Denar, Rom; 4,96 g.
Drapierte und geharnischte Büste r.//Prinz steht l. mit Standarte und Zepter, dahinter zwei Standarten.

Hill, Becker 191; RIC zu 102. Fast vorzüglich

If you do not translate description to English where it stated fake and ask your self why the coin is not listed under ancient Roman coins but in category Medaillen and there under BECKERSCHE FÄLSCHUNGEN and the price is appropriate for a forgery but not for an ancient coin of this type, then the problem is you and not the auction house.




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Re: Fake Diadumenian?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2020, 08:02:38 am »
Fake coin report please. Also, any volunteers to add the rest of the Becker's from this sale? 
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Re: Fake Diadumenian?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2020, 08:32:17 am »
You are absolutely right, it is my own fault. I was watching their live auction, where each item in the lot pops up and you have about 4 seconds to place a bid. They had several lots of genuine Greek and Roman coins earlier in the day, and when I saw the Diadumenian flash by later I jumped on it not seeing the category change or the description with the Becker information. That's what I get for not doing my due diligence. Thank you for taking the time to respond though, I sincerely appreciate it.

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Re: Fake Diadumenian?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2020, 08:48:51 am »
Fake coin report please. Also, any volunteers to add the rest of the Becker's from this sale? 
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