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« on: June 09, 2019, 08:30:25 am »

Cleopatra?
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2019, 01:49:19 pm »

I can see a bird standing left on the reverse, but I cannot make out anything on the obverse.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2019, 01:59:45 pm »

I can see a bird standing left on the reverse, but I cannot make out anything on the obverse.

That's funny because I could only see a thunderbolt on the obverse and nothing on the reverse. But now I can see the bird.


Together, and since "young" thinks of egyptian origin, it might be something like this:

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5704517
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2019, 02:00:27 am »

I can see a bird standing left on the reverse, but I cannot make out anything on the obverse.

That's funny because I could only see a thunderbolt on the obverse and nothing on the reverse. But now I can see the bird.


Together, and since "young" thinks of egyptian origin, it might be something like this:

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5704517
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2019, 04:54:53 am »

We should mention that many do not accept the re-attribution of these and other small AE from the mid-second century BC to Cleopatra.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2019, 10:05:32 am »

We should mention that many do not accept the re-attribution of these and other small AE from the mid-second century BC to Cleopatra.
A very clear opinion can be seen for example here: http://numismatics.org/magazine/cypruswinter05/

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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2019, 03:17:17 pm »

We should mention that many do not accept the re-attribution of these and other small AE from the mid-second century BC to Cleopatra.

The Svoronos catalog number 1246 (Sv 1246) is in his section under Ptolemy V, 'of an uncertain mint'.  Could be earlier, but might be later.  Cyprus seems likely as three of them appear in 'Paphos II' and appear on the market from Cyprus sellers from time to time.  VERY tiny coins, ~ 1 gram / 10mm, seldom in really nice condition.  Not included in Weiser, nor SNG Cop. , nor Bank of Cyprus, but British Museum and ANS have specimens.  Fairly scarce.

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