SBCV 2357A 2nd Known?

[Joe Sermarini]

This appears to be SBCV 2357A.
Byzantine Empire, Andronicus II Palaeologus, 1282 - 24 May 1328 A.D.
Obv: The Virgin facing orans
Rev: Andronicus, on left, standing facing, scepter cruciger in right hand, blessed by military saint, on right standing facing globus cruciger in left hand
Constantinople (Istanbul, Turkey), 1.680g, 22.9mm, 180 deg. die axis
Dochev 1992, pl. 17, 2; DOC V, table 18A, 30 (none in the collection); SBCV 2357A; B-D LPC -; Bendall PCPC; Lianta -; Grierson -; Sommer -

An extremely rare (previously unique?) Andronicus II trachy of this type was found by Dochev at Turnovo (Dochev 1992, Pl. 17, 2; ). It is apparently this coin that is described in the Dumbarton Oaks Catalog (DOC V) and in Sear's Byzantine Coin Values (SBCV). We do not know of any other examples, making our coin only the 2nd specimen known to FORVM.

Any others known?

[Vladislav D]

Six examples, including this one, listed as SBCV 2357A on Labarum catalog https://coins.labarum.info/catalog/1654
Regards,
Vlad .

[Joe Sermarini]

Thanks Vlad.

Not sure how I have missed https://coins.labarum.info/catalog until now.  Nice website.

I searched and only came up with one.

PS. OK, I see click on the one that came up and see the others.

[glebe]

As noted on my website, this particular example from the Labarum list seems to differ from S.2357A, although it's difficult to be too dogmatic.

 http://glebecoins.net/paleos/Data/Unlisted_Palaeologans/unlisted_palaeologans.html

(Coin 9).

Ross G.

[joma-tk]

Dear Joe

Do you believe the coin you presented is genuine?

tk

[Obryzum]

My first reaction is that it is probably genuine -- it looks like there are even early traces of bronze disease on both sides. 

[Joe Sermarini]

Yes, I am confident it is genuine.  The only possibility of forgery would be an obverse modified by tooling. In hand, that does not appear likely. The obverse appears to have first been finder cleaned by scraping (probably hoping for gold).

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=91214q00.jpg&vpar=18&zpg=97795&fld=https://www.forumancientcoins.com/Coins2/

[Joe Sermarini]

As noted on my website, this particular example from the Labarum list seems to differ from S.2357A, although it's difficult to be too dogmatic.

 http://glebecoins.net/paleos/Data/Unlisted_Palaeologans/unlisted_palaeologans.html

(Coin 9).

Ross G.

Right, I do not believe that coin should be identified as SBCV 2357A.