Vespasian Ephesus Denarius Not in RIC

[Joe Sermarini]

Vespasian, 1 July 69 - 24 June 79 A.D.
Silver denarius
Weight 3.253 g, maximum diameter 16.5 mm, die axis 180o
Ephesus mint, 71 A.D.
Obverse IMP CAESAR VESPAS AVG COS III TR P P P, laureate head right
Reverse PACI ORB TERR AVG, turreted and draped female bust right; no mintmark below

This reverse die is missing the usual mintmark.

David Atherton has a Titus Caesar denarius struck with this reverse die (or a very similar die) posted in the Members' Gallery and he notes it has been added to the RIC II addenda.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-66543

Is the RIC II addenda available anywhere right now?

Is this coin listed and does it have a number?

If not, how can I submit it?

If not does the Titus coin have a number?

Any other examples known?  

[Jay GT4]

Hi Joe, great coin.  I have a draft of the addenda I received from David.  I don't know how widely he wants it made available but I'm sure he won't mind if you get one.  I will send you a copy.  

I submitted a few coins to Carradice which he made note of, but are not yet recorded in the addenda.  He assigned them either numbers or footnotes on his end.  Do you have his contact info? I can send you that as well.


Which email should I send it to?

[Joe Sermarini]

Hi Jay, Thanks very much. Please send it to customerservice@forum.....com.  (Where the full email appear on pages of this website it is actually in code to keep it hidden from bots that scan the web for email addresses to SPAM).  I don't have Carradice's contact info, please send that too. Thanks!

[FlaviusDomitianus]

Dear Joe,

The editing and updating of RIC 2.1 A&C was mainly done by the late Ted Buttrey, who released the latest version in May 2017.

No updates have been released since then, although Ian Carradice regularly takes note of new reports.

Although Ted was not fully convinced of the need to create this new variety without mint marks, these coins were referenced as a part of the newly created series 1426(5A).

Your type, in particular, was provisionally registered under number 1426(5A)3.

As an example was cited Lanz 94 22/11/1998 310; you can find it here: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=67258

Kind regards

Alberto

[Joe Sermarini]

Thanks Alberto.

[David Atherton]

I'm sorry I'm late to the thread! But glad to see you got the info you required Joe.

The no mintmark series is indeed a puzzle. If these are mistakes made by engraver who randomly forgot to add a mintmark, why don't we see this across the series? It spans multiple types too, not just the Tyche type. On my RIC 1426(5A)4 there is no mistaking a mintmark was never engraved or intended!

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-66523

Oh, and thanks for the coin Joe!

[Joe Sermarini]

Thanks for the order David.  Your collection is the right collection for it.

[Akropolis]

"Any other examples known? "
Vespasian, 69-79 AD. AR Denarius minted at Ephesus/Ephesos, 71 AD. Obv: Laureate head right of Vespasian. Rev: PACI ORB TERR AVG, Turreted and draped female bust right; below, mintmark in monogram form, not visible on this specimen. RIC 1433; RPC 835.
Am I wrong on the references?
PeteB

[David Atherton]

"Any other examples known? "
Vespasian, 69-79 AD. AR Denarius minted at Ephesus/Ephesos, 71 AD. Obv: Laureate head right of Vespasian. Rev: PACI ORB TERR AVG, Turreted and draped female bust right; below, mintmark in monogram form, not visible on this specimen. RIC 1433; RPC 835.
Am I wrong on the references?
PeteB

It's either RIC 1433 or (less likely) RIC 1426 with the mintmark off flan. Of course it's very difficult to be certain without a reverse die match with a specimen showing the mintmark!