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Author Topic: What is the word used to describe something with meaning copied without meaning?  (Read 3238 times)

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I believe there is a term that describes a symbol copied without consideration of its original meaning (in this case a mark of value that is copied onto another coin of another denomination).  I don't think it is a coin specific term, and it is rarely used but I am fairly certain this term exists.  If you know what it is, help!  Thanks.
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Simulacrum or simulacre?

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I don't think that works for what I am trying to describe.
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Appropriated, perhaps?

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Relic?
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Joe, "vestigial" is probably the closest you can get short of coining your own.  The human appendix used to be described as a "vestigial" organ--still around but of no real use.  David R. Sear describes the continued meaningless use of VOTA inscriptions into Byzantine coins, but uses no specific term for it.  Here's your chance to top him!  Jim

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facsimile ?
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"ditto"  ?

or

"replica"  ?

"alike"  ?

"uniform"  ?

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Perhaps grapheme?
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I think vestigial is the closest so far and it may be the exact word that I remember.  Thanks everyone, especially JamesC11.
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"Syncretic" is pretty close.. the blending of two meanings or practices.
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Now it is clear  "vestigial"  +++
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I think the initial post was asking about artistic elements, initially of functional significance, that are carried over into later periods when that original meaning has been lost. The most obvious example that comes to mind are the X's and N's on Byzantine coins like this one: http://www.coryssa.org/2213431 which centuries before were used as denominational numerals but are here simply decorative. A more famous example would be the frilly shoulder gold strings as seen on the uniforms of stereotypical modern dictators which are a stylistic holdover of the Roman pteruges (the bit of leathery straps that usually is shown in "draped and cuirassed" busts)

I don't know if there is a term as such. Maybe art fixée or skeuomorph?

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Yes, skeuomorph is applicable.
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