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« on: February 10, 2019, 02:54:24 pm »

I acquired a nice 6th-7th Byzantine seal which measures 19.62 mm  and weighs 6.55 g.  On the obverse is a bust of the Theotokos facing, holding the infant Christ; crosses flanking.  On the reverse, is a cruciform monogram with either gammareversed ( eta) or  Greek_Pi (Pi) Greek_Omicron  Greek_Iota Greek_Upsilon_2  ( Greek_epsilon or  Greek_Xi  ) and  Greek_omega_small  I think that this seal dates from the 6th or 7th Century.  Could the monogram read as some form of Potentios?  Any opinions?  Pogh_poor
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2019, 04:27:23 am »

Isn't that a retrograde gamma on the left? Or do you see evidence of a weakly struck pi? That is certainly E at the left. Potentios is unlikely because there's no trace of N. In fact, with these letters, I can't think of anything. Perhaps a rho is missing for 'Georgiou'...
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2019, 01:38:15 pm »

It definitely is not a weakly struck Pi.  I think that it is very plausibly a retrograde Gamma although the letter appears quite similar a character on a seal in the Dumbarton Oaks collection which they concluded was an Eta.  However, if it was an Eta, it really makes no sense.  With Gamma, it would be quite similar to many examples of George.  Does it appear to be 6th Century to you too?  Pogh_poor
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2019, 02:02:40 pm »

Yes, these are usually dated 550-650 in Zacos/Veglery. If you'd like to be more precise, I'd say end 6th century, but that is largely subjective.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2019, 04:09:07 am »

Here is an example of a similar character -though I think that its a weakly struck Pi in the Dumbarton Oaks example


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Cruciform monogram. Wreath border.

α - λ - ο - π - υ

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