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Henrik Möller
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« on: August 10, 2018, 12:28:34 pm »

Hello

I have a question about the following coin.

The reverse depicts a seated divinity, Minos, Pluto or Serapis, with Cerberus at its feet. This type exists as a denarius with the titles P M TR P XVIII COS IIII P P, RIC 261a, but I can not find any coins of this type from the following year, XVIIII, only the antoninianus, RIC 279 and a denarius with the minotaur instead of Cerberus, RIC 279A. Is this type previously unknown with the titles P M TR P XVIIII COS IIII P P or has it just not been mentioned in the major references?

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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2018, 01:18:15 pm »

In my opinion there is only one type, Serapis seated wearing kalathos on his head, three-headed beast at his feet.

TR P XVIIII denarii with this type are indeed rare. My manuscript silver catalogue, certainly far from complete, lists three specimens, yours is now the fourth:

Reka Devnia pl. IV, 61, the coin cited by RIC 279A.

My coll. ex Rauch 65, 2000, lot 490. From the same rev. die as your example.

My coll., ex Solidus, eBay, 2015.
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2018, 02:38:33 pm »

very nice example  Thumbs Up
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2018, 09:32:47 am »

If I may offer this addition, this is an example of an As from the same issue.
Curtis, you may recall this from some years ago (perhaps via Numism-L), when
you very kindly assisted me with some additional details for this particular piece.

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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2018, 09:59:10 am »

Thank you, the answers have been very helpful.

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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2018, 02:12:24 pm »

Hi HM,

Nice rare coin!!! Smiley

Since we are discussing a coin depicting a cerberus (among other things), I have a Roman Provincial coin issued by Gordian III with a similar reverse (scroll down, last coin):

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/meepzorp/rp_moesia_niko_pt06.htm

I never knew that a Roman Imperial denarius existed depicting this reverse. I've never seen one before.

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2018, 09:41:48 am »

And another example, purchased a few days ago.

Same dies?

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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2018, 11:47:58 am »


Same dies?




Yes, obverse and reverse die match
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