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Offline Harrison R

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Byzantine? Late Roman?
« on: April 23, 2018, 12:59:30 am »
Hello,

I just found a coin in one of the lots I have and I'm not sure what it is.
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Re: Byzantine? Late Roman?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2018, 03:03:03 am »
Hi,

Can you please give weight and size also?
It looks like lead seal from Byzantine Empire, Iohannes, anthypatos, patricios, and eparchos. Around VIII century.

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Re: Byzantine? Late Roman?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2018, 04:38:46 am »
Yes that is a lead seal. However, the initial letter of the rev. seems to be pi, so it can't belong to a Ioannes. Possibly Peter? A photo of the rev. with the correct side up would help reading, whicht is 90 degrees turned to right.
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Re: Byzantine? Late Roman?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2018, 04:53:24 am »
Here you go:
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Re: Byzantine? Late Roman?
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Re: Byzantine? Late Roman?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2018, 11:17:24 am »
Ticket?
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Re: Byzantine? Late Roman?
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2018, 02:08:43 pm »
In American slang, "to be the ticket" means "to be the answer."  Pogh_poor
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Re: Byzantine? Late Roman?
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2018, 07:18:18 pm »
In this case,
"this might be the ticket" means "this might be the correct identification"
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Re: Byzantine? Late Roman?
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2018, 09:05:11 am »
Aha, then no, that is not the ticket. These are two different seals. The monograms on the obv. are standardized and occur on thousands of seals. The reverse is where the attribution has to come from.

I read ΠETP on the first line, which must refer to the personal name Petros. On the second line, the first letter is unclear. Then I read ΠATP followed by a vertical stroke, which is an abbreviation mark. This is Peter's court dignity of 'patrikios'. Below you can read CΠAΘ 'spath', which must refer to another court dignity, but which I am not sure because of the corrosion. Probably he was an imperial spatharios. I can't make sense of the last line.

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