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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2011, 05:19:36 pm »

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I would absolutely love a copy if it's not too much trouble.  I spent a good deal of time today trying to find them online, but I was unsuccessful.  Please let me know.

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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2018, 03:06:54 am »

A very interesting discussion.However, 7 years ago. I would like to re-open this topic. I wonder if there is new knowledge, fresh insights, new sources etc.

In the former discussion, I missed the connection between the Tyrus Shekel (minted until Year 191 65/66 AD) and its successor for paying temple tax, the new revolutionary Jerusalem Temple Shekel, minted in Jerusalem from 66 AD until the the fall of Jerusalem by the roman legions (70 AD).
Obviously, the zelotic rebels rejected the pagan Tyrus shekel with the god Melkart. They replaced it by the "pure" Shekel (from a jewish religious point of view). Was it difficult at that time (even in a war period) to set up a complete new minting infrastructure for minting silver coins? Or was the conquered Jerusalem mint of the Tyrus shekel used by the jewish rebels? This more plausible assumption would support the Meshorer´s theory.
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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2018, 08:09:04 am »

Well they already had a well-established and productive bronze mint, I can't imagine expanding to silver would to too much of an innovation.

It is worth noting that the revolt sheqels are technologically different in many ways from the Tyrian ones. The revolt sheqalim are thick, with flat hammered edges, while even KP Tyrian sheqalim never are. In my view, this also suggests a separate mint.

Other than Meshorer, I cannot think of any scholar who agrees with the Jerusalem theory. It has been rejected in RPC, Ariel and Fontanille, B. Levy's papers on the subject, etc.
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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2018, 01:25:51 pm »

I am no scholar, but I have not rejected the Jerusalem theory. I'm not convinced one way or another.
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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2018, 07:03:36 pm »

Here are a few shekels from my collection. A year 2 revolt shekel with a 103/102 BC Tyrian shekel and the second with a 52/53 CE KP shekel.  No hammered edge on the KP shekels but the similarity is noteworthy.
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« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2018, 12:32:26 am »

It is still very difficult to get access to the publications of Brooks Levy, especially from outside the US. The here cited "Spanish museum" link is not working anymore. However, I found her article "Later Tyrian shekels: dating the “crude” issues; reading the controls" at another website:
https://s3.docmh.com/uploads/DS2017/06/12/vNlmrORQhr/e069dadf4e982ab3e96e5dd6b8729143.pdf

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« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2018, 10:32:29 am »

It has been a number of years since I was in communication with her, but Brooks levy was always gracious with her time and was very gracious in corresponding with me in the past and even sent me copies of her articles and presentations.  She even made some helpful comments and additions about an article I was writing
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« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2018, 05:21:58 pm »

Try contacting her. that's probably your best bet.
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