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Offline Kevin P

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Need help identifying possible SB 1879 - Michael VII Ducas Follis
« on: January 29, 2018, 11:20:41 pm »
I was just going through some Byzantine bronze coins in my collection and ran across this one that I had originally identified as an SB 1878.  After looking at a couple photos online, I think it might be an SB 1879.  I'm having a hard time believing that since it looks like the 1879 is so rare, so I'd like to find out what others think. 

Weight: 4.45 grams
Max diameter:  31.2 mm  (average diameter = 28 mm)

Thanks in advance for your help!


Here is a link to another coin identified as an SB 1879: https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=85938
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Re: Need help identifying possible SB 1879 - Michael VII Ducas Follis
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2018, 07:44:32 am »
SCBV-1879 is my call.

The difference seems to be in SBCV 1878 the IC XC on OBV is at Christ's head and SBCV-1879 it is below the cross.  Yours is bellow the cross.
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Re: Need help identifying possible SB 1879 - Michael VII Ducas Follis
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2018, 04:51:18 pm »
Thank you.  That's what I thought, too. 

The CNG auction from back in 2006 implied that they knew of only 4 coins that existed of this type:
-- The two specimens known to Grierson (both in the British Museum)
-- The one from Rauch 73, 17 May, 2004, lot 1054; misattributed as an 1878
-- The one they were auctioning (CNG 72, Lot 2171)

Is anyone aware of others that have come to light since 2006?
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Re: Need help identifying possible SB 1879 - Michael VII Ducas Follis
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2018, 05:50:40 am »
I have in my files apart from the CNG example, the following one.
Unfortunately without any further details

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Re: Need help identifying possible SB 1879 - Michael VII Ducas Follis
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2018, 09:12:05 am »
Thank you, tk!

So - now the count is at 6 known.

Is this a coin that you own?  Or did you find it on the internet?
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Re: Need help identifying possible SB 1879 - Michael VII Ducas Follis
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2018, 09:18:42 am »
Found one more on Forum - this one and the one tk were both posted by task_force. 

Perhaps we are at 7 known now?  Looking for more!

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Re: Need help identifying possible SB 1879 - Michael VII Ducas Follis
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2018, 10:35:18 am »
I wonder how many are sitting in collections that were mis attributed, like yours Kevin? Btw , nice coin and congratulations.
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Re: Need help identifying possible SB 1879 - Michael VII Ducas Follis
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2018, 10:40:09 am »
Thank you, Simon.  I've wondered the same.

I'm about to post something similar regarding 1878 versus 1880a.  I'd love to get your thoughts on that.
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Re: Need help identifying possible SB 1879 - Michael VII Ducas Follis
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2018, 02:18:24 pm »
Not mine

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Re: Need help identifying possible SB 1879 - Michael VII Ducas Follis
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2019, 05:24:31 pm »
Not mine, from my files. No size/ weight.
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Re: Need help identifying possible SB 1879 - Michael VII Ducas Follis
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2019, 07:13:42 pm »
Another one . In my collection now.
3.8 grams .
Regards                ,
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Re: Need help identifying possible SB 1879 - Michael VII Ducas Follis
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2019, 09:29:54 pm »
Nice coin Vlad. Attractive !
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