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« Reply #225 on: March 24, 2020, 11:41:57 am »

1.  Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 118,Rethy I-131,CAC Vol. II/19.8.1.1/a2.8/17. It has a sigla of 2 small points inside the N in the upper right quadrant.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 124,Unger 71,Rethy I-133,CAC Vol. II/19.10.1.1/a1.21/22. It has a sigla of one small point beside a larger point at 3:30.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 148,Unger 69,Rethy I-126,CAC Vol. II/20.6.1.1/b1.5/37. It has a sigla of one small wedge under cross at about 2:00.
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« Reply #226 on: March 24, 2020, 11:56:58 am »

All of these are Anonymous Hungarian Denars (1131-41,King Bela II?).

4. Huszar 82,Unger 51,Rethy I-69,CAC Vol. II/18.3.1.1/a1.13/14. It has a sigla of one point on line inside crescent at 3:00.

5. Huszar 89,Unger 48,Rethy I-74,CAC Vol. II/18.5.1.1/c2.6/54. It has a sigla of 2 perpendicular lines with a space between them at 2:00.

6.Variation of Huszar 96,Unger 46,Rethy I-81,CAC Vol. II/18.10.1.2/c4.2/3. It has a sigla of small horizontal lines at 12:00,3:00,6:00 and 9:00.

7. Variation of Huszar 97,Unger 49,Rethy I-83,CAC Vol. II/18.11.1.1/a2.4/9. It has a sigla of one point above and below left arm of horizontal cross bar at 12:00.
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« Reply #227 on: March 24, 2020, 03:25:49 pm »

Wow, all great examples... Thumbs Up

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« Reply #228 on: March 24, 2020, 05:42:06 pm »

Thank you,Quadrans. Smiley
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« Reply #229 on: March 26, 2020, 07:05:17 pm »

Nice additions. Stkp
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« Reply #230 on: March 26, 2020, 07:16:20 pm »

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« Reply #231 on: April 04, 2020, 11:20:47 am »

These are the last ones I received before the stay at home started. This will be it until the Covid-19 is over.

1. 1603 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Rudolph II;Huszar 1060,Unger 812,KM-16. It is very double struck making the date look like 603.

2. 1602 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Rudolph II;Huszar 1059,Unger 811a.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 161,Unger 80,Rethy I-151,CAC Vol. II/20.15.1.1/g1.4/49. It has a sigla of one star on horizontal cross bar at 2:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 164,Unger 86,Rethy I-153,CAC Vol. II/20.16.1.1/a1.25/26. It has a sigla of one small point in lower right quadrant of center cross.
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« Reply #232 on: April 04, 2020, 11:40:04 am »

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 124,Unger 71,Rethy I-133,CAC Vol. II/19.10.1.1/b1.1/54. It has a sigla of one small wedge to the right of the horizontal bar at 3:00.

6. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Variation of Husxar 97,Unger 49,Rethy I-84,CAC Vol. II/18.11.1.1/a4.3/29. It has a sigla of one point above and below the horizotal bar on each end at 3:00 and 9:00.

7. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 139,Unger 65,Rethy I-118,CAC Vol. II/20.2.1.1/0.1/1. It has no sigla.

8. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-145,CAC Vol. II/20.9.1.1/a1.11/12. It has a sigla of one small point touching a small wedge at about 2:00.
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« Reply #233 on: April 08, 2020, 09:26:45 am »

Great coins, Edward  Thumbs Up Wink

 Joe/Q.

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Sorry the late replay, but I1m very busy now, because of my Job, this serious situation... Sad

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« Reply #234 on: April 08, 2020, 10:34:28 am »

Thank you,QuadransSmiley

These were the last ones I received before the stay at home started and will be it until this coronavirus emergency is over.
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« Reply #235 on: April 08, 2020, 10:38:38 am »

It's OK, Stay Home, in the safety and healthy circumstances... Thumbs Up

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« Reply #236 on: April 08, 2020, 08:25:29 pm »

Nice coins, Edward. Be well! Stkp
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« Reply #237 on: April 09, 2020, 08:25:09 am »

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« Reply #238 on: May 02, 2020, 01:53:24 pm »

Hi friends, I'm new to the forum.
I bought this unknown coin that came from Eastern countries (former Yugoslavia).

From a search in your forum I saw that it could resemble the Hungarian saracen head coin minted during the reign of Louis I of Anjou. On one side of the coin there is a patriarchal cross with random dots. On the other side of the coin there appears to be a saracen head.

The inscriptions on the coin do not appear to be those of Huszár 547 or a Huszár 550.
Already the Angevin king Charles I (1308-1342), father of Luigi instituted a series of mint for the collection of the lucrum camerae tax (delivery of old money to replace it with new production money with the application of a commission for the benefit of the royal coffers) throughout the country: in addition to Buda, Esztergom, Szerém, Csanád and Slavonia also in Körmöcbánya, Szomolnok, Szatmár, Várad, Transylvania and Pécs.
Is it possible that the coin was issued with the consent of King Louis I from one of the vassal states of the Kingdom of Hungary: Wallachia, Banat of Severin, Moldova, Bosnia, Serbia HuhHuh??
In the inscriptions we find the following possible letters:
(Cross) ?A????ADVWO(or G or E)AIVO
(Saracen Head) ?HOMHTO?Huh

In some contemporary coins of Wallachia


we find similar inscriptions such as:
………AI WODI…………..
………..WOIDEI………….
……….WAIWOD………..
To indicate a woiwode (voevoda, voivod, vojvoda, voevod, vaivode, wojewoda, voyvoda, voyevoda, woywode, vojvode) a vassal of the king of hungary.

is there any source to consult?
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« Reply #239 on: May 02, 2020, 02:42:32 pm »

Welcome to the forum, Marco.

It is an interesting coin. Perhaps it is a contemporary counterfeit of a Saracen head denar with a blundered inscription? This might be the case as the metal content appears to be all bronze without even a hint of silver. Of course, hazarding metal content based on a photo is unreliable.

By the way, you would have been best off creating a new topic for the coin rather than tacking it onto Edward's thread.

I am sure that I don't speak only for myself when I say that I hope to see more coins and posts from you.

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