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« on: November 20, 2017, 01:37:22 pm »

New Book, Hungarian Medieval coin Vol I.

 Hi all, I was left a few week because we finalized our new series first volume :

"Catalogue of the Árpadian Coinage I."
as you see below the book cover..

The text are Hungarian-English and Slovak

The book will be available in the middle of  December ..

please let me know if somebody are interested ...

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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 03:46:28 pm »

Great news.  Congratulations!

Can you let us know the price point and what dates it covers.

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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2017, 03:54:07 pm »

Thank you Shawn,

 It will be a series, this I Volume now under the last correction and will be printed a hardcover aprox 350 pages..

I hope we have a first copy approx december 1-15.  3000 pieces , the price under the calculation approx 20-25 Euro plust shippment fee, ..

I will inform later the the final info..

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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2017, 09:13:18 am »

Hi Joe/Quadrans,

What period of time does this volume cover? Which rulers?
(I think that may also be what Shawn was asking)

How many volumes do you expect to produce?

Thanks.

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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2017, 09:47:41 am »

The time period are the St Stephan (Istvan the 1st ) to Henricus (Imre ) 997-1204 A.D.  Followed by the Huszar line .

The next Volume  ( Vol II.) will be in March 2018, included the Anonimous Denarius.  The Vol III. will be printed in Summer of 2018 this one included the latest time intarval the Kings the house  of  Árpad  to closed date are 1307 A.D.

 like my article :

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/313904419_Megjegyzesek_a_keso_Arpad-kori_penzek_jegyrendszereinek_kerdeseivel_kapcsolatban_Remarks_on_the_Marking-system_of_the_Late_Arpad_Age_Coins



 The Answere are not easy because nobody known exactly  which are the time interval of the Anonimous denarius, because they are overlaped some part of both other periods.

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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2017, 09:52:19 am »

Hi Walter the series will be continoued later to the Angevin Kings and the Sisgismund of Luxemburg and so on to finaly to nowadays time ..
 
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2017, 12:34:57 pm »

Hi Joe,

I wish you all the best with your new book, may it be a huge success for you. Wink

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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2017, 12:37:48 pm »

Hi Martin, thank you very much after a week I need some relax  Wink Grin Thumbs Up

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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2018, 07:12:46 am »

Final news:

The book will be available 23rd of February... Smiley Wink Thumbs Up

http://katalogus.numismatics.hu/product_info.php/products_id/8362/language/en
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The first volume of the most detailed catalog of 11-12th-century Hungarian coinage which contains all the coins minted by the kings of Hungary between 1000-1204.
-more than 100 coin types and subtypes of 17 rulers
-numismatic introduction in Hungarian, English, and Slovak
-description of catalog entries in Hungarian and English
-more than 400 real size and enlarged color photos
representing coin types
-more than 3850 drawings representing variations"


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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2018, 10:16:11 am »

Joe, I just placed my order with Csaba. As you know, I've been looking forward to the book. Stkp
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2018, 10:37:30 am »

Thanks, Steve, I hope you will like that.... Wink Smiley Thumbs Up

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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2018, 08:40:35 am »

Happened, after the 14th. year (we start this work at 2004), now the Vol I. are ready ... Smiley
Today the first piece in our hand...  Thumbs Up Smiley
We are in progress if no any complication the Vol II. is coming soon maybe at May this year...

Some page, to the impression ...

The Book Presentation and the introduction will be 27th of February at 17:00, by Prof.Dr. László Kovács archeologist who are the Member of the Hungarian Academie of Sciences.

Location: in Budapest, at the building of the Hungarian Numismatic Society.

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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2018, 07:33:44 pm »

Volume I looks promising, Joe. I see that it includes your studies of the sigla. I am looking forward to receiving my copy, and to the release of volume II. Will the second volume complete the series? I will then have to go back and update all the Hungarian albums in my gallery -- roughly 370+ coins (which I am in the process of doing, anyway, as I recently did for Maria). Stkp
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2018, 09:40:49 pm »

Joe, your book arrived last week. I'm looking forward to the next volume. I have so far only gone through my coins of the earliest Arpadian kings and incorporated your book into my write-ups:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=2244
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2018, 12:01:38 am »

Hi Steve,

I hope you like it Smiley

If you have any question let me know.... Wink

The next Volume (I hope), printed before the summer of this year...

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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2018, 07:04:09 am »

Joe, the book is great. I intend to post something more substantive about it eventually. I need to use a bit more thoroughly first. I'll send you a private message first with my thoughts and questions after I have updated my album of Kalman, using your book and other sources I did not have when I posted those coins. Steve
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2018, 02:00:23 pm »

Dear Steve, I also upgraded my first Árpadian Group of coins to fitted to our new book.:

HUNGARIAN-Árpád dynasty rulers (1000-1204 A.D.) I., From Stephen I. to Imre

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=6642

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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2018, 03:01:17 pm »

Till now available the Vol II.

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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2018, 11:56:48 pm »

Dear all, this publisher, who published our series have so many interesting archaeological books very reasonable price,
only one thing is a problem only a few are bilingual another are only Hungarian, but... Thumbs Up
I recommended... Smiley Wink Thumbs Up


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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2018, 12:07:51 am »

Congratulations Joe on the release of volume II.   Wink
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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2018, 12:16:08 am »

Dear Martin, Thank you very much,

Now we start to the Vol III. ...,

Regards

Joe

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I put some new coin from Arados in my gallery, including the Alexander the Great Tetra Smiley

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-151196
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=6121

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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2018, 03:30:27 am »

Nice coins, i see that your Arados collection is growing. Don´t forget to leave some for me.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2018, 07:30:52 am »

Joe, I just placed my order for volume II. When do you anticipate the release of volume III? Will volume III extend to the end of the Arpadian Dynasty? Stkp
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2018, 10:33:57 am »

Nice coins, i see that your Arados collection is growing. Don´t forget to leave some for me.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2018, 10:43:09 am »

Joe, I just placed my order for volume II. When do you anticipate the release of volume III? Will volume III extend to the end of the Arpadian Dynasty? Stkp

Dear Steve,

In my opinion, the Vol III. will be available the next summer and extend to the end of the Árpadian Dynasty (Late Árpadians) an included the Vencel and Otto, but they are not a member of the Dynasty but the monetary systems and the typology are very similar.
Finally the end of the next year maybe the Vol IV. will be available including the Angevin (Anjou)Dynasty...etc...Smiley

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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2018, 12:08:36 pm »

The big changes came with Karoly/Charles Robert, so it makes sense to begin volume IV with the Angevins and to place Vencel and Otto at the end of the Arpads. How many volumes to you project to reach the end? Will it end before dated coinage, or continue through Lajos/Louis II and Janos/John Zapolyai/Szapolyai? Stkp
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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2018, 01:15:00 pm »

Dear Steve, the series will be continued till today ...
The latest will be the nowadays currency is the Hungarian Forint Volume...

In the year 2006, I was the editor of three books,
the "Korona Fillér 1892-1925" and
the "Pengő Fillér 1926-1946" and
the "Forint Fillér 1946-2006" series in three Volume.  

Its new edition will be the end parts of this series... Wink Thumbs Up

Of course not I will be the only author, several of my friends an colleagues prepare/write it, some of these volumes will be edited with me some of without me...

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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2018, 03:12:50 pm »

The Official Book Launch will be 04/12/2018, 17,00 PM, Budapest, in the Hungarian National Muzeum :

https://mnm.hu/hu/esemenyek/muzeumi-elet/megszolalnak-nema-denarok-konyvbemutato?fbclid=IwAR3ikKbAAsBWVyrQWSrkkqNCC4z2IcX_Sat2jOmWNCY6MkVwk6lUXgEOk_Q

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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2018, 05:13:18 pm »

Joe, I’m just seeing this thread for the first time now.  Wow—congratulations! This is quite the accomplishment!
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2018, 11:12:05 pm »

Dear, Nick,

Thank you very much for your nice word,   Smiley Wink Thumbs Up

I also congratulate you, on the 1st. Vol. of KOINON. I received yesterday afternoon ...  Thumbs Up

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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2018, 04:49:37 am »

I’m glad it arrived safely.  Thank you for serving on the board!
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« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2018, 05:17:03 am »

I’m glad it arrived safely.  Thank you for serving on the board!

Dear Nick, it is a great pleasure... Thumbs Up

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I hope soon I will be one of the authors, some of the articles... Wink Smiley

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« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2018, 09:42:27 am »

I am continuing to go through my gallery and revise my attributions/descriptions of my medieval Hungarian coins based on Joe's excellent book (and other books that have been published or acquired since my original postings). With some minor tweaking (and I have a couple of questions that I have asked of Joe concerning specific coins), I have now completed updating my album on the coinage of Coloman/Kálmán:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=2235

As of this writing, I have only studied Volume I (Volume II is in the mail) through the reign of Kálmán. The book (a) identifies varieties of the coinage that are not listed in the earlier major catalogs (Huszar, CNH/Rethy and Eh/Unger); (b) contains both scale and enlarged photos of each coin type together with line drawings; (c) identifies by line drawing all of the different sigla (small privy marks) associated with each type; (d) provides a rarity rating and historic rarity ratings utilized in prior works; and (e) provides average weights and size ranges. I heartily recommend the book for anyone who is seriously interested in the coinage that is covered by the volume. Congratulations to Joe and his co-authors for putting together a wonderful volume.

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« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2018, 07:49:11 pm »

Moving along, I have completed my revisions of the coinage of István/Stephen II (1116-1131) based in large part on Joe/Quadran's book: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=2252 (just the first 3 coins in the album). The revision project gives me the opportunity to take out and closely examine coins that I last handled many years ago. It is a re-acquaintance with old friends. Stkp-
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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2018, 12:22:56 am »

Dear Steve,

At first, thank you for your nice words about our Book, I'm really appreciated.

I hope you have enjoyed this kind of updates... Wink Smiley Thumbs Up

I will try to answer your question as soon as possible.

If you received the Vol. II. some more of your coin will be updated... Wink Thumbs Up

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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2018, 10:02:55 am »

Joe,

I retrieved Volume II from the post office on Saturday. I have not started to work with it yet, as I have not completed my revision of my descriptions/attributions of the coins covered by Volume I (I have four more coins left to go and expect to be working with Volume II before the new year). However, I read through the text of Volume II and randomly examined the catalog entries. My preliminary impression is that the book is as impressive in its detail and clarity as Volume I is. I look forward to the publication of Volume III and the completion of your coverage of the Árpádian dynasty!

I have noticed, by the way, that various coin dealers have already begun to reference their offerings to your catalog numbers. The same dealers ignore completely the other recent catalogs that have been published that are of a significantly lower quality (Frynas and Adamovszky). I expect that your books will supplant Huszár as the standard.

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P.S. I appreciate your willingness to answer the private questions I sent you concerning Volume I and a number of my coins that are covered by that volume. I will again revise my descriptions/attributions based on your answers. Take your time. Stkp
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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2018, 10:48:43 am »

Dear Steve,

It is good news you received the Vol. II., I hope you are like it Smiley

We start this work an approximately 14 year ago...
We have studied more than 50,000 coins from the different Museums, more than a hundred hoards, and so many Catalogs of the different Auctions site, and many many private collections...
Our goal was to do a great and systematic catalog, which is useful to the scientists and the collectors and also to the dealers...

I hope we do it well...  Wink


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« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2018, 11:30:13 am »

Joe,

I finished the revision of my gallery based on volume I. That volume covered 33 coins. I have a very few additional questions comments that I will send to you.

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« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2018, 02:07:03 pm »

Dear Steve,

Some of your questions answered by mail...

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« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2018, 03:10:24 pm »

Thanks, Joe. I have revised several of my descriptions based on your email messages, and given you credit for the assistance:

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-39855
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http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-39868
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http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-47642
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http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-50171

It is always gratifying to find unrecorded varieties of a coin (even where the variety is merely a sigla mark).

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« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2018, 12:04:45 pm »

Dear Steve, you are always welcome,

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« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2018, 10:14:00 am »

Joe, I have been revising my descriptions of my anonymous denarii based on volume 2 of your book. So far, I have completed my revision of the Class I Anonymous Denarii (15 coins): http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=2252. Volume 2 is, so far, as clear and easy to use as volume 1, and equally thorough. There are no unrecorded varieties or sigla amongst my coins in this group. Stkp
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« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2018, 01:07:57 pm »

Dear Steve,

I'm happy if you are satisfied with our book  Wink

Do not hesitate to ask me if you have any question...

Best Regards and Happy New Year  Wink

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« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2019, 08:02:36 am »

Joe,

I finally completed my revision of my 12th century (post-Kalman) album, based on your book:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=2252
I am now ready for the publication of Volume III.

By the way, I notice that it is no longer just the Hungarian dealers that are referencing coins to your book. CNG is now also doing so.

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« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2019, 08:11:43 am »

By the way, I notice that it is no longer just the Hungarian dealers that are referencing coins to your book. CNG is now also doing so.

I have to retract this as I glanced too quickly at the CNG auction. Sorry... Stkp
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« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2019, 11:14:00 am »

Joe,

I finally completed my revision of my 12th century (post-Kalman) album, based on your book:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=2252
I am now ready for the publication of Volume III.

By the way, I notice that it is no longer just the Hungarian dealers that are referencing coins to your book. CNG is now also doing so.

Stkp

Dear Steve,

I hope it was interesting not a boring pastime  Wink Thumbs Up

Anyway needs time to use this system widely and of course necessary to finalize the late Arpadian Vol III. and then will be completed this areaWink Thumbs Up


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« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2019, 07:00:23 am »

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I hope it was interesting not a boring pastime  Wink Thumbs Up

I enjoyed going through the collection. Many were coins that I hadn't handled in years. I am always moving forward with new coins, new areas of interest, so it is nice now and then to go back and systematically examine older holdings. Stkp
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« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2019, 11:23:51 am »

Great,

Congratulation  Thumbs Up

I watch what is going on your medieval Hungarian coins and recognized all are ready... Wink Smiley Thumbs Up

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