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Offline Canaan

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Bronze Owl
« on: November 19, 2017, 05:29:03 am »
Hello to all, a friend showed me this bronze owl saying he found it in the ground, i told him that it is a fake and finished with a machine  but he is insisting that he harshly cleaned so i decided to have another opinion, it is 4.6×1.7 cm at the widest any opinions are most welcome.
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Re: Bronze Owl
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2017, 11:32:32 am »
If by "harshly" he means that he used a grinding wheel on it, OK, but otherwise, your friend needs to listen to you.

And if he truly did find it in the ground it was probably discarded by the person who did make it because they overground it and decided to trash it.




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Re: Bronze Owl
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2017, 11:58:32 am »
Yes, exactly, but it is always good to have another opinion before throwing something into trash!! Thanks alot.
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Re: Bronze Owl
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2017, 03:15:26 pm »
It is kind of cool (tiny little thing with some neat green patina/corrosion) ...

... but yah, it's definitely the type of thing that I wouldn't spend any cash on whatsoever (hopefully somebody will have some info on it, one way or another)


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Re: Bronze Owl
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2017, 07:09:51 pm »
Does it stand upright on its base?  What is it, what would it be?  a dust collector for granny's fireplace mantle?  Did they make "nicknacks" in antiquity?

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Re: Bronze Owl
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2017, 05:33:10 pm »
It is not harshly cleaned - well it is that too - but the edges were worked with a hard steel implement.  cmcdon said grinding wheel, I think just a simple steel hand file.  Either way it was for finishing a modern cast.

The more important point is that the style does not match anything actually documented as ancient.

Though you can't prove a negative the logic challenge for such things is simple:

There have been literally millions of ancient artifacts excavated and documented.  Tens of thousands of photos can be found online.  Finds are also documented on thousands of books and journals.  The onus on anyone trying to prove something is a genuine ancient object is to find a parallel or a stylistically similar parallel.  Discounting online crap from dealers in fakes and other scam artists nothing similar will be found.

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Re: Bronze Owl
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2017, 02:01:25 am »
Thank you all, eventually what is sure that this piece is a fake.
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