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« on: February 29, 2020, 01:05:47 pm »

I recently bought the new RIC II/3 (Hadrian) volume and am starting to re-catalogue my 80-ish Hadrian era coins.  (Surprise, I am not just a late Roman guy...)

I though that this would be a good time to actually post some of my coins as I know I have been remiss in this area.  I have created a new gallery (Hadrian Era) where I will put all my Hadrian, Sabina and Aelius coins (as well as my one Pius as Caesar).  About 8 or 9 are now done, though even some of these still need weight and diameter added.  I am uploading photos and then getting around to providing the up-dated catalogue data so any near-blank entries you see will be filled in soon.

Thanks for looking/commenting.

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« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2020, 04:05:22 pm »

Great, coins, Shawn,   Thumbs Up

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2020, 12:29:44 pm »

I am still working on uploading my Hadrian collection in that new gallery, but have created another new gallery - Holed Coins.

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I have long been fascinated by holed coins and have been doing a fair bit of research recently.

In this gallery I am not only noting details about the coin, but also about the hole or holes, including:
- number of holes,
- their placement size & shape,
- whether they were drilled or punched,
 -from what side,
- as well as any other things I note.

If you are interested in holed coins please check it out.

Dozens more to be uploaded over the next few days.

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2020, 12:42:50 pm »

Finally!!!!!  We can see Shawn's collection or part of it here in FORVM, great news thanks!!!
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2020, 01:46:51 pm »

I know.  Long overdue!

It was lack of access to a good quality but simple camera that held me back for so long.

I now have an android phone with a decent camera so can start plugging away at uploading stuff.

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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2020, 02:59:03 pm »

If you are interested in holed coins please check it out.

I have a small number of medieval and early modern holed coins (and some modern holed tokens). I am curious as to why the holes on the medievals are not located so that the image on the coin is oriented properly as a hanging pendant. Perhaps the holes are made for purposes other than as pendants. Stkp
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2020, 05:33:29 pm »

Hi Shawn,

I liked your collection of Roman military objects. I have a question. Do you ever see sharpening stones come up for sale that were used either by Roman soldiers or others come on the market? I’ve never looked.

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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2020, 05:56:05 pm »

Been waiting a long time for this!
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2020, 06:44:44 pm »

"I am curious as to why the holes on the medievals are not located so that the image on the coin is oriented properly as a hanging pendant. Perhaps the holes are made for purposes other than as pendants. Stkp"

I might be able to suggest at least one possible explanation. I spent quite a while working in the Middle East, including some contacts with the Bedouin. It was still very common for the women to wear necklaces and the like made of silver (and more rarely) gold coins; in many ways they wore the family wealth. I didn't stare too closely at the women to examine the coins (decidedly not a good idea). Seeing some of these types of necklaces and the coins that were used for them in bazaars, however, there seemed little rhyme or reason for where the coins were holed. It seemed as though the main point was the silver itself rather than a pleasing portrait. I would guess that a fair number of medieval coins also would have circulated in the area at one time or another; if the more current holing pattern existed during that period, then it could be a similar situation.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2020, 07:55:50 pm »

Thanks, Lawrence. Food for thought. Stkp
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2020, 04:29:15 am »

I had a feeling you owned coins!
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2020, 08:52:44 am »

I think that Lawrence's scenario does apply to some coins from the Middle East, especially small silver coins from the Mamluks, Ottomans' etc.  I have several of these that came from Jordan that will soon be on my site.

But for others, especially the larger bronze coins in the Balkans, there are other explanations.  I have revived the old Why Were Coins Holed thread under the For The New Ancient Coin Collector section to add a bibliography of seven key articles published in the last few years.

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I think it is better that any good discussion on this subject be there rather than on a personal gallery thread.

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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2020, 08:55:58 am »

Marc, 

No I have never seen an actual whetstone for sale. 

I have seen some things (small bronze-figures) that were likely whetstone handles, but the "stone", which may have actually been an iron rod like you find with the sharpener in a modern carving knife set, was missing.

I think that a plain stone, though likely shaped and flat, would not likely be identified as such or found by detectorists.  They would probably only come to light in a controlled excavation.

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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2020, 02:49:20 pm »

Nothing like "house arrest" to spur some action.

I have created a new Gallery and uploaded my entire collection of Quintillus coins - 13 plus an introductory page.

Four are unlisted in MER-RIC - ranging from new types for Quintillus to unlisted bust types.  I have sent all four in to RIC-MER.

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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2020, 02:42:12 pm »

I have also gone through my Roman Militaria gallery.

I have almost finished updating all the existing entries.  While most involve a minor re-formatting and adding extra references, I am afraid that the identity of a couple of items have changed based on my researches since initial posting.

I have also added over ten new items and will continue add more.

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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2020, 04:17:35 pm »

I have finished updating references and descriptions of the existing Roman Militaria entries.

I have made significant changes in particular to the entries regarding armour-related items. 

If you used any of my descriptions to identify any of your own items I encourage you to go back and check in case the description has changed.  I apologize for any changes but it is important to keep up with the archaeological publications and ensure that descriptions are up to date.

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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2020, 10:14:03 am »

i don't get it who would like to collect Hadrian  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2020, 11:16:58 am »

Only people of superior taste and refinement!!

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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2020, 11:24:48 am »

Only people of superior taste and refinement!!

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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2020, 11:25:36 am »

So my pledge for my Roman Militaria gallery in particular, but also hopefully my other galleries of non-coin artefacts, is to only list items with the following conditions:

- with references to proper archaeological works or scientific studies, or

- noting that I have been unable to find any such reference, and that my identification is tentative and/or speculative.

Note: I am not including sales catalogues or "collector"-type books, such as detectorist series book, as references.  Or at least if they are listed, such as the Appels & Laycock book, they are not taken as the only source of the identification.  No offense to all the fine folk in the dealer and detectors communities, but without reference to an archaeological or scientific work such descriptions are in effect just speculation or salesmanship.

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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2020, 12:16:12 pm »

Added a small gallery of wall and floor decorations  - i.e. fresco fragments and floor tesserae.

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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2020, 05:07:18 pm »

I like your fresco/tesserae gallery.

I have one fresco fragment, purportedly collected at Pompeii back in the early part of the 20th century.  I came from a collection in Switzerland, via a highly respected dealer in antiquities.



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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2020, 07:25:57 am »

Neat!

Anyone who has been to Pompeii knows that the red colour is widely used there too.  The article I used as a reference only concentrates on later eras, the 2nd to 4th centuries, which was fine for me as I know my pieces came from the Pannonia area so those are the relevant dates, not the 1st century like at Pompeii.  But the colours were also used at other times as yours shows.

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