Ummmm, were the Vandals considered part of the Byzantine era?

[stevex6]

Ummmm, were the Vandals considered part of the Byzantine era?

Regardless, here are my two lone Vandal offerings ... please feel free to answer my question and/or post any of your cool Vandal coins

 

Cheers

VANDALS IN CARTHAGE, Æ 21 NUMMI
Attribution: MEC 45
Date: 523-533 AD
Size: 20.26 mm
Weight: 6.28 grams
Obverse: Soldier standing facing
Reverse: Head of horse left, XXI in exergue


Vandals, Municipal Coinage of Carthage
AE 4 Nummi
Date: 480-533 AD
Diameter: 9.61 mm
Weight: 0.85 grams
Obverse: Diademed and draped bust, holding palm
Reverse: - / N / IIII

[stevex6]

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... that's okay (I like you coin guys)

 

I've got all long-weekend to stare at the screen waiting for some sort of response (one way, or another) ...

=> my wife is out of town until tomorrow and I am at home sipping Kraken and hanging-out with my hounds (we're all looking longingly at the dead-screen ... hoping ... wishing ... waiting ... what? ... hey, was that a response?! ... *nope* ... hoping ... wishing ... waiting)

 

Just jokes (get a life, Steve!!)

[PeterD]

My single Vandal example is not very good but you can see it here https://www.forumancientcoins.com/historia/coins/b1/b901.htm
There is also a short history of the Vandals. Click 'Next Coin' to see better examples of other 'Dark Age' coins.

[stevex6]

Hey, thanks PeterD ... cool coin and great short-description (apparently the Vandals were defeated by the Byzantines)

=> cheers

 

[Quant.Geek]

I have a few Vandal coinage in my gallery.  I am not sure what you mean by Byzantine era.  Do you mean were they contemporary with the Byzantines?  Then yes, there were, but you also need to understand that the Byzantine Empire was one of the longest reigning empires!

Vandals: Anonymous (ca. 480-533) Æ 12 Nummi, Carthage (MEC-42; MIB-19, under Hilderic)

Obv: Carthage standing facing, each hand outstretched holding ears of corn
Rev: NXII within wreath




Vandals: Anonymous (ca. 480-533) Æ 42 Nummi, Carthage (MEC-43-4; MIB-22, under Gelimer)

Obv: KARTHAGO; Soldier facing, holding spear
Rev: Horse’s head over XLII

[stevex6]

Great coins, Quant. Geek (thanks for posting those winners)

Oh, and thanks for your explanation (I always appreciate people's coin-help)

Cheers

 

[Simon]

When I first saw this without reading the description I thought " Wow! aliens have visited the earth ."

Nice coins Guys , this is my favorite from the group. It gives me an idea for a new collection. We are not Alone themed.

I do not have any Vandal coins, do either of you have more examples? They are interesting.

[stevex6]

Sorry, Simon => I've already posted my only two Vandal examples (yah, they are pretty cool, eh?)

 

[Obryzum]

Byzantine coinage starts with the reform of the bronze coinage during the reign of Anastasius I (491-518).   However, some numismatists maintain that Byzantine coinage starts with Arcadius (383-408).  An argument can also be made that Byzantine coinage starts from Constantine I (306-337), both because Constantine introduced the solidus, and because Constantine relocated the capital from Rome to Byzantium.   

Under any of these standards, the Vandal coinage is part of the Byzantine era, but it is not considered part of the official imperial coinage.

[stevex6]

Thanks, Obryzum ... yah, that's why I asked the question (I already knew the time-frame associated with the Byzantine era, but I'd never heard mention of the Vandals when people were discussing Byzantine examples)

=> oh, thanks to everybody who has dropped me a line and responded to my thread (I appreciate it ... I always love talking about my own and other people's cool coins)

Happy Canadian Thanksgiving Day (it lands on the 2nd Monday in October)

 

[Quant.Geek]

There is a whole section devoted to these types of coins in my gallery at https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=6110.  I don't have many, but I treated this as an extension to my Byzantine coins....

[vercingetorix]

Certainly not part of the Byzantine coin series. Vandal coinage belongs to the post-Roman coinage issued by successor kingdoms which includes not just the Vandals but also the Ostrogoths and the Visigoths, for instance. Byzantine and Vandal coinage did "interact" when Byzantium conquered North Africa under Justinian and combinations of Byzantine and Vandal coins are sometimes found in sixth-century coin hoards from the Mediterranean world.

[stevex6]

Awesome ... vercingetorix, thank you very much for your information (I have always wanted to snag myself an example of a Visigoth coin and/or an Ostrogoth coin) ... a friend from another coin-site (ValiantKnight) is a big follower of coins from this rare era (very interesting)