Author Topic: Greek silver coin (Read 3810 times)

The Red Dragon · « **on:** September 20, 2017, 06:17:40 am »

Hi
Here's another piece I'm struggling with.
Silver
0.5g
9.3mm (at widest)

I can't decide if it's a helmet on the obverse?
Incuse small animal on the reverse?

Grateful for any guidance. Many thanks.

Arados · « **Reply #1 on:** September 21, 2017, 10:12:15 am »

Similar to the reverse on my Phoenician coin from Tyre. Yours is not Phoenician but i have seen this type before, i will have a look tonight if time allows.

https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2015/08/30/tr-no-dmslp-no-1772-6-e-lj/

The Red Dragon · « **Reply #2 on:** September 21, 2017, 10:14:24 am »

Many thanks Martin

OldMoney · « **Reply #3 on:** September 21, 2017, 11:59:48 am »

Surely better photos would help with this process!

Walter

The Red Dragon · « **Reply #4 on:** September 21, 2017, 01:09:23 pm »

Thank you Walter.
The photos are better than the coin itself.

If the coin was perfect I wouldn't need any help on the attribution.

Arados · « **Reply #5 on:** September 22, 2017, 03:42:16 am »

Definitely Persian era.

Resembles coins of Samaria and is not too dissimilar to bronze coins of Tyre depicting seahorse to right and head of lion. Ref: Elayi and Elayi No.1734-1737.

Seahorse or Hippocamp on the obverse ?

Not in Meshorer (Samaria) or Gitler and Tal (Philistia).

Sorry I couldn't be of more help, this ones got me stumped.

The Red Dragon · « **Reply #6 on:** September 22, 2017, 05:06:52 am »

Many thanks for all your efforts Martin

I shall widen my search!

Meepzorp · « **Reply #7 on:** September 22, 2017, 09:04:36 am »

Quote from: Molinari on September 21, 2017, 07:17:26 am

I was thinking lion on obverse, facing, upper jaw at the bottom of the coin.

Hi folks,

As soon as I looked at it, I thought the same thing.

The obverse reminds me of the obverse of one of my Bruttium, Rhegium coins (first coin):

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/meepzorp/gi_brut_rheg_pt01.htm

Meepzorp

The Red Dragon · « **Reply #8 on:** September 22, 2017, 12:05:22 pm »

I see what you are saying. But
a) I bought a batch of coins and all the others are from Southern Anatolia.
b) I haven't seen many/any incuse squares on rhegium bruttium coins.
c) I haven't seen the hippocamp / turtle / tortoise / anything similar on rhegium bruttium coins.
Many thanks for looking.

Meepzorp · « **Reply #9 on:** September 22, 2017, 12:30:24 pm »

Hi RD,

I think you mis-understood my previous post. I wasn't implying that there is a possibility that it is a Bruttium, Rhegium coin. I was simply confirming what other posters in this thread have been stating all along, that the obverse depicts a facing lion head. Style-wise, your coin is a match.

Meepzorp

The Red Dragon · « **Reply #10 on:** September 22, 2017, 01:12:03 pm »

Sorry Meepzorp

Dino · « **Reply #11 on:** September 22, 2017, 02:25:44 pm »

Take a look at "A hoard of Greek coins from Southern Anatolia" by E. S. G. Robinson in the Revue Numismatique. It should be available on-line. There are several coins described with that reverse.

Dino · « **Reply #12 on:** September 22, 2017, 02:26:08 pm »

http://www.persee.fr/doc/numi_0484-8942_1973_num_6_15_1057

The Red Dragon · « **Reply #13 on:** September 23, 2017, 04:53:39 am »

Many thanks Dino.

Still having trouble pinning it down. $:-\$

Meepzorp · « **Reply #14 on:** September 23, 2017, 07:46:54 am »

Hi RD,

It may be an unpublished coin.

I looked through acsearch, but I couldn't find a match.

It is probably an obol, hemiobol, or trihemiobol.

Meepzorp

The Red Dragon · « **Reply #15 on:** September 24, 2017, 08:14:00 am »

Here's another attempt at photography

Two ears are now visible. So we are looking at a lion, probably.

Meepzorp · « **Reply #16 on:** September 24, 2017, 02:41:31 pm »

Hi RD,

There was never any doubt in my mind that the obverse depicts a facing lion head.

Meepzorp

Meepzorp · « **Reply #17 on:** September 24, 2017, 02:43:58 pm »

Hi folks,

The reverse looks like Fred Flintstone's pet dinosaur Dino.

Meepzorp

OldMoney · « **Reply #18 on:** September 25, 2017, 12:18:09 pm »

With some half-decent images, the depictions seem a bit clearer. I would
search out Cimmerian Bosporus, and see what comes up. The obverse is
similar to other items from that area. Might get you closer at least.
Good luck!

Walter