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Frans Diederik
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« on: July 16, 2017, 06:11:20 am »

Though not as a total surprise, as this laurel-rosette diadem is already known for his father in the dotPTRE series, I was thrilled to get it in a lot I bought for some Arles coins. Probably there also is an example for Constantius Caesar.
Does anyone of the Forum members know other examples?

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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2017, 12:26:20 pm »

Look interesting,

Nice find.. Thumbs Up

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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2017, 01:02:34 pm »

Interesting, but probably "irregular coin", i.e. another example of an ancient imitation.

What is the weight and diameter?
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2017, 03:34:28 pm »

Would it be possible to see a better photograph?

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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2017, 06:02:11 am »

It weighs 2.95 grammes and measures 19 mms.
Pictures aren't the best, but clear enough.
The coin is not yet cleaned.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2017, 07:04:26 am »

Thank you, Frans, for the nice picture.

Let's compare some coins:

This TRIER 512 is undoubtedly official




This TRIER 512 is probably (90%) an ancient imitation



In my opinion your coin is something in between but is more similar to the second one.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2017, 08:02:46 am »

Lech,
I took the liberty to borrow a picture from your site, to compare both rosette diademed heads and the reverses. What strikes me is the great similarity of the reverses: small letters and a very similar execution of the blocks of stone - first the horixontal lines and then the vertical ones, often slightly crossing. I wonder if this is the same hand. For this photo I slightly cleaned the coin which is soft and brittle.

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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2017, 08:56:44 am »

I agree that these reverses are very similar in style. But it is not the same die (which could be a proof that both coins came from the same source). Reverse of Campgate type is rather simple and easy to imitate. I believe that obverses are much more important when we try to distinguish an official issue from imitation.

Your coin is interesting because it is not an obvious imitation.
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