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Offline Crassus

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Sicily? help id needed - 14
« on: June 01, 2017, 10:50:02 pm »
Help needed to id the ruler, please?
Thank you so much for your help
small coins, aprox. 15mm

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Re: Sicily? help id needed - 14
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2017, 01:08:37 am »
Hi Young,

It is another of your billon denaros of Sicily from the fifteenth century, when ruled by Aragonese kings.  The obverse is an eagle with the rulers name in legend around.  I cannot make out the obverse lettering (maybe you can make them out with close inspection), but for Martin I or II (1402-1410) it would be  :plus:MARTIN:D GR.  For Alfonso the Magnanimous (1442-1458), it would be  :plus:ALFONS:D:GR.  For John II (1458-1479), it would be  :plus:IOANNES:D G.  For Ferdinand the Catholic (1479-1516), it would be  :plus:FERNANDVS D G.  The reverse is the shield of Aragon with the legend  :plus:REX:SICILIE or similar.  I do not notice any mint master's initials on the reverse, so I would think that your coin would be from the Martins or Alfonso's reign.  Mint master initials can be above or either side of the shield on the reverseMint would be Messina.  I gather this information from Medieval European Coinage 14.  Hope this gets you in the right direction.

Cheers,

David

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Re: Sicily? help id needed - 14
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2017, 09:59:13 am »
Hi Young,

It is another of your billon denaros of Sicily from the fifteenth century, when ruled by Aragonese kings.  The obverse is an eagle with the rulers name in legend around.  I cannot make out the obverse lettering (maybe you can make them out with close inspection), but for Martin I or II (1402-1410) it would be  :plus:MARTIN:D GR.  For Alfonso the Magnanimous (1442-1458), it would be  :plus:ALFONS:D:GR.  For John II (1458-1479), it would be  :plus:IOANNES:D G.  For Ferdinand the Catholic (1479-1516), it would be  :plus:FERNANDVS D G.  The reverse is the shield of Aragon with the legend  :plus:REX:SICILIE or similar.  I do not notice any mint master's initials on the reverse, so I would think that your coin would be from the Martins or Alfonso's reign.  Mint master initials can be above or either side of the shield on the reverseMint would be Messina.  I gather this information from Medieval European Coinage 14.  Hope this gets you in the right direction.

Cheers,

David

thank you dear friend, can you help me with anoters coins posted, please?

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Re: Sicily? help id needed - 14
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2017, 11:47:15 am »
Yes sir, working on them right now!

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Re: Sicily? help id needed - 14
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2017, 02:53:14 am »
Hi young,

I have a similar coin (different ruler):

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/meepzorp/ms_pt05.htm

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Re: Sicily? help id needed - 14
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2017, 12:42:09 pm »
Thank so much for your help

 

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