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« on: June 01, 2017, 08:22:18 am »

help to ID the ruler and date, please? 15 mm aprox.
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2017, 10:10:26 am »

Hi Young,

This denaro falls into the same category as your post marked -1.  It is a billon denaro of Sicily from the fifteenth century, when ruled by Aragonese kings.  The obverse is an eagle with the rulers name in legend around.  I cannot make out the obverse lettering, but for Martin I or II (1402-1410) it would be  :plus:MARTIN:D GR.  For Alfonso the Magnanimous (1442-1458), it would be  :plus:ALFONS:D:GR.  For John II (1458-1479), it would be  :plus:IOANNES:D G.  For Ferdinand the Catholic (1479-1516), it would be  :plus:FERNANDVS D G.  The reverse is the shield of Aragon with the legend  :plus:REX:SICILIE or similar.  I do not notice any mint master's initials on the reverse, so I would think that your coin would be from the Martins or Alfonso's reign.  Mint master initials can be above or either side of the shield on the reverseMint would be Messina.

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David
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2017, 03:13:50 pm »

Hi Young,

This denaro falls into the same category as your post marked -1.  It is a billon denaro of Sicily from the fifteenth century, when ruled by Aragonese kings.  The obverse is an eagle with the rulers name in legend around.  I cannot make out the obverse lettering, but for Martin I or II (1402-1410) it would be  :plus:MARTIN:D GR.  For Alfonso the Magnanimous (1442-1458), it would be  :plus:ALFONS:D:GR.  For John II (1458-1479), it would be  :plus:IOANNES:D G.  For Ferdinand the Catholic (1479-1516), it would be  :plus:FERNANDVS D G.  The reverse is the shield of Aragon with the legend  :plus:REX:SICILIE or similar.  I do not notice any mint master's initials on the reverse, so I would think that your coin would be from the Martins or Alfonso's reign.  Mint master initials can be above or either side of the shield on the reverseMint would be Messina.

Cheers,

David


Thank you dear friend for your help
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2017, 12:43:19 am »

Hi young,

I have a similar coin (different ruler):

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/meepzorp/ms_pt05.htm

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2017, 10:43:38 am »

Thank so much for your help
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