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Offline kc

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Caracalla Sestertius
« on: May 12, 2017, 02:44:12 pm »
Here I show you a historically interesting Bimetallic sestertius of Caracalla.

It is a heavy sestertius for that time and maybe it was given as a present to a general of Caracalla's troops.


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RIC 525c mentions auction J. Schulman, Vierordt sale, 1923, lot 1900. Does anybody have the catalogue for this auction and check
if it is this coin? RIC rates this type as R3 but over the last years a few examples have been sold.




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Re: Caracalla Sestertius
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2017, 03:35:34 pm »
What a beauty  +++
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Re: Caracalla Sestertius
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2017, 06:49:13 pm »
Thank you, Eric :)

All the best,

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Re: Caracalla Sestertius
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2017, 02:59:42 am »
Here I show you a historically interesting Bimetallic sestertius of Caracalla.

It is a heavy sestertius for that time and maybe it was given as a present to a general of Caracalla's troops.


https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-137090


RIC 525c mentions auction J. Schulman, Vierordt sale, 1923, lot 1900. Does anybody have the catalogue for this auction and check
if it is this coin? RIC rates this type as R3 but over the last years a few examples have been sold.





 Absolutelly the BOT coin :)  +++

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Re: Caracalla Sestertius
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2017, 03:34:24 pm »
Thank you very much, Joe 😉

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Re: Caracalla Sestertius
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2017, 04:26:33 pm »
The Vierordt coin you ask about is laureate, draped, cuirassed right, as RIC 525c states, so of course is not your specimen. Paris also has a specimen of the same coin, misreported by Cohen 273 = RIC 525d as having AVREL in obv. legend and bust laureate, draped r. only, when in fact the obv. legend has AVR and the bust is laureate, draped, cuirassed right. It is from the same dies as the Vierordt piece. So RIC 525c and d are the same coin.

The variant you have, obv. FELIX and bust laureate, cuirassed right (not draped) is not in Cohen or RIC. But I have plaster casts of two such specimens (Rome ex Gnecchi, Budapest), and I note three in CoinArchives Pro: one in two CNG sales, another (tooled) in several Gorny & Mosch sales, and your coin, ex Bertolami 12, 29 Oct. 2014, lot 862.

Four of these five specimens are from the same die pair as each other. Yours is from the same rev. die (the only die for this Adlocutio type dated TR P XVII), but from a different obv. die, which may be otherwise unknown to me. Among my plaster casts, in any case, there is no other coin from this obv. die, with Adlocutio or any other rev. type.

The bimetallic, overweight flan of your piece of course gives it a medallic quality. I would conjecture that it was produced as a New Year's gift for 1 Jan. 214 AD. Most second-cent. bronze medallions, as I showed in my Date and Purpose of Medallions paper, seem to have been struck for use as New Year's gifts, and a good number of them were bimetallic. Caracalla issued no large bronze medallions at all during his sole reign, but he did produce a small number of bimetallic sestertii in 213, 214, and 215. The title FELIX on your coin would seem to indicate that it was struck early in 214, from an old obverse die that had originally been engraved in 213. On denarii, FEL was superseded by GERM before the end of 213.

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Re: Caracalla Sestertius
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2017, 01:21:14 pm »
Hello Curtis,
Thank you for finding out these informations, excellent!
Where can I find your paper with medallions? Why these pieces must have been a New Year's gift and not a gift directly after the event  (for example a won battle )?

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Re: Caracalla Sestertius
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 05:51:17 pm »
kc,

See the thread "The Role of Medallions" under "Reading for the Advanced Collector".
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Re: Caracalla Sestertius
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2017, 10:08:24 pm »


That is an incredible coin kc!!! Thanks for sharing.

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