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Author Topic: Greek Kolophon, DONE, thanks Altamura and Shanxi  (Read 665 times)

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Offline zoser

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Greek Kolophon, DONE, thanks Altamura and Shanxi
« on: April 21, 2017, 09:37:03 am »
I thought it could be from Macedonian Kingdom but I haven't found any coin with a similar inscription.

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Re: Greek coin Apollo Horseman needs ID help
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2017, 12:48:20 pm »
Perhaps this one mentioned in Isegrim:

ERD:   AM
PRO:   IONIA
PO :   COLOPHON
PZ :   Between -285 and -190
BNG:   IKESIOS
   Obverse
VT :   HEAD MAN R / APOLLO
VA :   WREATH LAUREL
   Reverse
RSG:   KOL IKESIOS
RT :   MAN RIDING R(1)
RA :   SPEAR(1)
RF :   LYRE
   Technical details
M  :   AE
GR :   15(1) / 16(2-3)
GEW:   2.72(1) / 2.62(3)
ST :   12(1)
   Bibliographical references
ZIT:   SNG KOP 22 174(1) / MILNE KOLOPHON 155C(1)
VGL:   MILNE KOLOPHON 155A(2) / COLL BERLIN(2) / MILNE KOLOPHON 155B(3) / SLG HUNTER S324,4(3)
   Additional remarks
FR :   RS: KOL IKESIOS

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Re: Greek coin Apollo Horseman needs ID help
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2017, 01:04:29 pm »
Hi Altamura, I didn't take that option into account as coins from Kolophon wear a spear and mine seems not to do it, in adittion legeng on Kolophon coins is quite different.

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Re: Greek coin Apollo Horseman needs ID help
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2017, 01:44:39 pm »
Your coin is, if it is true, a smaller variant of the "usual" Apollo rider coins from Kolophon. Usually they weigh between four an five gram, this variant only between two and three.

Your coin is a bit corroded, so it cannot clearly be seen whether there is a spear or not. But the position of the rider's arm is exactly the one for holding a spear.

When searching in Isegrim for coins with a head of Apollo and a magistrate's name ΙΚΕΣΙΟΣ, the only ones with a horse on the reverse are from Kolophon.

I don't have alternatives, but it's up to you to continue the search  :).

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Re: Greek coin Apollo Horseman needs ID help
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2017, 03:02:44 pm »
Altamura is right  8)

This is a die match, the spear hardly visible, but you can see the KOL above the horseman mentioned in the ISEGRIM result.


https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=82091q00.jpg&vpar=591&zpg=37576&fld=https://www.forumancientcoins.com/Coins2/

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Re: Greek coin Apollo Horseman needs ID help
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2017, 03:34:46 pm »
Great  :) . This is the lacking evidence  +++

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Re: Greek coin Apollo Horseman needs ID help
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2017, 04:02:49 pm »
Yes, you both are completely right.

I had no idea about this variant of coin, thanks for letting me know it.

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