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Author Topic: Syracuse DONE by Mark, thanks so much for a great job  (Read 1686 times)

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Offline zoser

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Syracuse DONE by Mark, thanks so much for a great job
« on: January 10, 2017, 05:29:31 pm »
AE19
8,4 gr

Any help is very apreciated.

Thanks in advance

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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2017, 08:37:36 am »
Hi, any idea about this coin? The most similar I have found is one from Larissa Kremaste, but doesn't seem to be the one I have.

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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2017, 09:05:14 am »
This is a tough one.  The types are common, most of the ethic is illegible, and what is there is not diagnostic.  I notice the N is reversed and the workmanship not the greatest.  This may be an ancient imitation, though I am not sure of what.  Perhaps a coin of one of the Macedonian cities?

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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2017, 09:41:05 am »
Hi djmacdo, yes it is tough, Zeus-Athena are so typic to find it in Acsearch or werhever.
I will have a look today to Macedonian cities coinage on Wildwinds, just in case something is found.
Thanks so much!

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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2017, 09:28:30 am »
Hi Djmacdo, no luck looking for it on any Macedonian city, at least coins that Wildwinds shows, I'll keep trying, thanks so much for your help

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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2017, 04:40:29 pm »
It is an interesting and frustrating coin.

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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2017, 07:03:16 pm »
I was thinking somewhere in Pisidia because of the obverse style but I've had no luck finding it. 

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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2017, 11:51:04 pm »
Dear Zoser, Mac, Nick, and Board,

Please see the attached photo of a Syracusian bronze struck under Roman rule (20mm, 7.70 g., 12h; struck after 212 BC; Calciati 240).  For further specimens, this link might be of some interest:

http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Area_IV_map/Syracusa_map/descrSyrC_240a.html   
 
“When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” —Sherlock Holmes in The Sign of the Four (1890).

Hope this helps.


Best regards,

Mark Fox
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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2017, 07:57:13 am »
Thanks so much to all of you!

Hi Mark, it seems to be quite quite similar, specially one of the two specimens on the link.

I have had a look on Acserach too and it seems that weight and size are simillar too.

I really think you got it.

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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 08:28:52 am »
BUT, the coin in the first post looks cast.
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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2017, 08:34:04 am »
BUT, the coin in the first post looks cast.
Hi Joe, do you mean mine or coin showed by Mark?

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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2017, 11:22:04 am »
I think Mark nailed it--the style is identical and unmistakable.

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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2017, 02:50:08 pm »
Dear Joe and Board,

I know what you mean, and almost anything is possible, but I have little doubt that Zoser's coin is genuine.  In my opinion, it looks as if the coin was clumsily cleaned with something like a scalpel to remove stubborn encrustations and then polished to erase some of the resulting damage.     

In Zoser's obverse photo, the encrustation on the edge of the coin at 3:00 is a detail not often seen on modern casts, at least in my experience.

   
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Re: ID Greek coin Zeus Athena
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2017, 04:12:09 am »
Thanks so much to Djmacdo, Molinari and Fox and everyone who has had a look and try.
Difficult one but got it, awesome job!!

 

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