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Author Topic: Golden Islamic Coin, Help to ID  (Read 1260 times)

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Hunter T

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Golden Islamic Coin, Help to ID
« on: November 16, 2016, 11:28:44 am »
Hi,

Weight: 0.8g;
Diameter: 17mm

Please help with identification.

bakkar

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Re: Golden Islamic Coin, Help to ID
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2016, 12:20:33 pm »
This is Fatimid fractional dinar of l Mustansir, mint and date off flan

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Re: Golden Islamic Coin, Help to ID
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2016, 01:08:54 pm »
Hey Bakker , I hope you safe and well.

That is what I thought for the first moment.
 

الامام معد المستنصر بالله
Imam Maad Al Mustansir Billah


But what refrained me from posting is

On this ( half Dinar or maybe ¼ of ) ;
Where is the letter R (ر) in  Al Mustansir  as you know it is always under the line . It looks D (د) more ( but Al Mu'taded was not Maad , yet impossible there is a clear siin س also he is not one of the rulers in spite the weak sovrenty  of Bagg'dad)
and if you consider the Bi ( با )for billah  is there ,so there is only Saad (ص) in his name as the last letter.

There is only another Maad ( Imam Maad Al Muzz Li Din Allah )
معد المعز لدين الله

I would accept Imam Maad Al Mustansir Billah but with miss spilling.
Do not you agree Bakker.
Sam Mansourati

bakkar

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Re: Golden Islamic Coin, Help to ID
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2016, 11:33:05 am »
Yess agree.
The full reading is
الامام معد المستنصر بالله امير المؤمنين

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Re: Golden Islamic Coin, Help to ID
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2016, 11:43:58 am »
I wish members in here , know how hard it is to figure all those letters, ;D
Sam Mansourati

bakkar

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Re: Golden Islamic Coin, Help to ID
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2017, 12:38:17 pm »
Fatimid Kufic script is so hard to read on coins.
But nothing is impossible, just try to handle and see Fatimid coins as much as you can.

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Re: Golden Islamic Coin, Help to ID
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2017, 01:35:10 pm »
Hi Bakker , how are you , I hope you are safe ?
I think you know I can read every type of Arabic letter , I even can read Karshoni ( Syriac Aramaic letters but you read Arabic , which was the one used by all early Islamic offices in Syria )
You also agreed that the engraver is not very professional on Nov 20.
As there are error on Roman coins and others , you also can find not well formed letters on Islamic coins.
I hope you are not confused with another thread?
Sam Mansourati

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Re: Golden Islamic Coin, Help to ID
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2017, 04:24:46 pm »
Dear  Sam,
I am still alive, thanks alot.
I forgot this threat, Sorry for not reading it from the beginning.
You are great Sam. Sorry again.
H.Bakkar

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Re: Golden Islamic Coin, Help to ID
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2017, 04:26:41 pm »
Stay safe  +++
Sam Mansourati

 

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