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« on: November 16, 2016, 09:28:44 am »

Hi,

Weight: 0.8g;
Diameter: 17mm

Please help with identification.


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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2016, 10:20:33 am »

This is Fatimid fractional dinar of l Mustansir, mint and date off flan
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2016, 11:08:54 am »

Hey Bakker , I hope you safe and well.

That is what I thought for the first moment.
 

الامام معد المستنصر بالله
Imam Maad Al Mustansir Billah


But what refrained me from posting is

On this ( half Dinar or maybe ¼ of ) ;
Where is the letter R (ر) in  Al Mustansir  as you know it is always under the line . It looks D (د) more ( but Al Mu'taded was not Maad , yet impossible there is a clear siin س also he is not one of the rulers in spite the weak sovrenty  of Bagg'dad)
and if you consider the Bi ( با )for billah  is there ,so there is only Saad (ص) in his name as the last letter.

There is only another Maad ( Imam Maad Al Muzz Li Din Allah )
معد المعز لدين الله

I would accept Imam Maad Al Mustansir Billah but with miss spilling.
Do not you agree Bakker.


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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2016, 09:33:05 am »

Yess agree.
The full reading is
الامام معد المستنصر بالله امير المؤمنين
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2016, 09:43:58 am »

I wish members in here , know how hard it is to figure all those letters, Grin
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2017, 10:38:17 am »

Fatimid Kufic script is so hard to read on coins.
But nothing is impossible, just try to handle and see Fatimid coins as much as you can.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2017, 11:35:10 am »

Hi Bakker , how are you , I hope you are safe ?
I think you know I can read every type of Arabic letter , I even can read Karshoni ( Syriac Aramaic letters but you read Arabic , which was the one used by all early Islamic offices in Syria )
You also agreed that the engraver is not very professional on Nov 20.
As there are error on Roman coins and others , you also can find not well formed letters on Islamic coins.
I hope you are not confused with another thread?
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2017, 02:24:46 pm »

Dear  Sam,
I am still alive, thanks alot.
I forgot this threat, Sorry for not reading it from the beginning.
You are great Sam. Sorry again.
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2017, 02:26:41 pm »

Stay safe  Thumbs Up
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