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Offline Nathan L

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Updated. Aptera, crete? Athena/Ares torch Greek coin Help.
« on: September 13, 2016, 09:25:15 pm »
I have a Greek that appears to be Athena on the obverse.  At first, I thought the back had a bunch of grapes, but the the stem is coming out of the wrong side and what is left of the legend seems to confirm it.  I'm stumped.

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3.51 g  &  13 mm
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Re: Athena Greek coin Help.
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2016, 12:40:01 pm »
The reverse looks like a race torch to me.
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Re: Athena Greek coin Help.
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2016, 08:32:12 pm »
Hi folks,

The reverse may be a naval trophy or anchor.

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Re: Athena Greek coin Help.
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2016, 08:54:28 pm »
Meepzorp,

Thanks for that idea.  Do you happen to have an examples of that type that I can see?

I have tried to highlight what part of the legend I can see.
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Re: Athena Greek coin Help.
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2016, 10:29:25 pm »
Hi Nathan,

When I saw your coin, it reminded me of the Sextus Pompey AR denarius depicting a naval trophy on the reverse. It is just a guess.

I have an example of that type, but it isn't posted in my website yet.

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Re: Athena Greek coin Help.
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2017, 09:39:56 am »
Well,  I still haven't found this one and I decided to try again.   I am wondering if it could be Aptera in Crete.  One of the reverses on acsearch is very similar,  but I cannot find an Aptera bronze with Athena?  On the obverse.   Does anybody know of any helmeted Aptera bronzes?

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Nathan
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3318711
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Re: Athena Greek coin Help.
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2017, 11:07:11 am »
A boy on a dolphin, left hand raised? Rough.
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Re: Athena Greek coin Help.
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2017, 11:53:26 am »
I think race torch, too.
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Offline Nathan L

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Re: Athena Greek coin Help.
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2017, 12:02:32 pm »
I think it is a torch too but will look at dolphins too.   I cannot seem to find a helmeted head right with a race torch on the reverse with legend below.   That one acsearch auction I found is the closest I have come.  It is also rather thick and feels earlier.

Thanks for the tips.

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Re: Athena Greek coin Help.
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2017, 09:22:45 pm »
Try Crete, Aptera.  I just saw a remarkably similar coin listed with that heading on eBay, allegedly unpublished.  I'll try and post the picture tomorrow.
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Re: Athena Greek coin Help.
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2017, 09:27:52 pm »
AE12, 1.42g.  Says Ares obverse and I think yours does show Ares, not Athena.  Hopefully I can upload the screen shot from my phone.
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Re: Athena Greek coin Help.
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2017, 09:30:39 pm »
I just noticed you suggested Aptera already!
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Re: Athena Greek coin Help.
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2017, 09:33:50 pm »
Thanks for that listing.   I had found an Aptera reverse that was close but not the helmeted obverse.

This is exciting.   Any idea how to research a type that is "apparently unpublised"...with two similar specimens?  Lol.
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