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Author Topic: Interesting avers legend on the yunger Licinius AE coin, COTD  (Read 1733 times)

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Interesting avers legend on the yunger Licinius AE coin:

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133 Licinius-II. (317-324 A.D.), Ticinum, RIC VII 071, P/-//TT, AE-3 Follis, IOVI CONSERVATORI, Jupiter standing left, R3!
avers:- LICINIAN-LICINIVS-IVN, 6a, B1, Laureate, head right.
revers:- IOVI CONS-E-RVATORI, Jupiter standing left, chlamys across left shoulder, leaning on sceptre, thunderbolt in right hand, P in left in field.
exergo: P/-//TT, diameter:18,6-19,5mm, weight: 2,35g, axis:0h,
mint:Ticinum, 3rd. off., date: 317-318A.D., ref: RIC-VII-71, p-371, R3!,

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Re: Interesting avers legend on the yunger Licinius AE coin, COTD
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2016, 01:40:58 pm »
That is most exceptional in the lack of NC, NOBC or any other title.   Excellent coin!

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Re: Interesting avers legend on the yunger Licinius AE coin, COTD
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2016, 01:50:11 pm »
Thank you Doug :)

May be this coin was strucked before when he became as Caesar ??? ( early 317 ???).

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Re: Interesting obverse legend on the younger Licinius AE coin, COTD
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2016, 02:19:58 pm »
Cohen 24 recognizes the interest and rarity of this obverse legend by valuing the coin at 10 francs.

Unfortunately I don't find any discussion of this legend in the text or footnotes of Bruun's RIC VII.
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Re: Interesting avers legend on the yunger Licinius AE coin, COTD
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2016, 03:19:42 pm »
Thank you Curtis your notes...

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Re: Interesting avers legend on the yunger Licinius AE coin, COTD
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2016, 10:49:51 am »
Bruck lists it without comment and unfortunately does not say how many of the seven examples of this type he lists from Ticinum are LICINIAN LICINIVS IVN vs LICINIVS NOB CAES

In my opinion extremely unlikely that it was struck before he (and Crispus and Constantine II) were made caesars.  More likely that there was simply some confusion at Ticinum about what titulature to use for the young guy.  I would place it in a briefly lived issue before the LICINIVS NOB CAES was used.

Very nice coin.

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Re: Interesting avers legend on the yunger Licinius AE coin, COTD
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2016, 11:26:07 am »
Hi Shawn,


 Thank you your remarks..

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Re: Interesting avers legend on the yunger Licinius AE coin, COTD
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2016, 10:47:09 pm »
A very nice coin quadrans, I like the casual pose of Jupiter, much more classical in appearance than the typical late imperial style that the rigid head of the young Licinius shows. A good example of a cross over in artistic styles that was taking place at the time.

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Re: Interesting avers legend on the yunger Licinius AE coin, COTD
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2016, 01:24:08 am »
Hi Steve,

 Thank you very much your nice words and remarks.... +++

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