Very thick coin. 12 Nummi Byzantine

[Volvo]

Please help to ID.
Size:18mm
Weigth:8.4gr

[Arminius]

Maybe one of these Byzantine 12 nummi pieces from Alexandria, cf:



others:

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Byzan+12+Nummi+IB&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=

regards

[Volvo]

Thanks a lot.
It looks like this one:
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/byz/heraclius/sb0861B.jpg

[Abu Galyon]

Hi Volvo,

The hotlink to Wildwinds didn't seem to work for me, but your coin is a 12-nummi piece from the Alexandria mint. Almost all the coins from this mint are struck on very thick flans.

From your photograph my poor eyes can't make out anything much on the obverse.
The reverse seems to be I  - cross over monogram 27  -  B (Monogram 27 looks like an M with a bar on top)
and that leaves two possibilities:

SBCV 861 of Heraclius
SBCV 1026, of Constans II (attributed to Heraclonas in DOC)

The obverses of these coins are very different, so with the coin in hand you ought to be able to tell which.

Bill R.

[SC]

I think that these 12-nummi pieces also continued to be struck by the Arab rulers of Egypt after the conquest of 642.  There are apparently ways to tell them apart from the original Byzantine ones but I don't know how.

Shawn

[Abu Galyon]

After the Arab conquest the mint moved from Alexandria to Fustat. The text in exergue consequently changed from the Byzantine  to  (the transliteration of Masr, a form of the Arabic word for Egypt) or later to  (perhaps a contraction of Abd al-Aziz ibn Marwan, who ruled in Egypt as governor under his brother, the caliph Abd al-Malik).

Bill R.

[Volvo]

Thanks for your help. I updated the photos. For me it looks like SBCV 861 of Heraclius.

[SC]

Thanks for adding those details Bill.  Sadly the few I have that I wonder about have no visible mint marks....

Shawn

[Volvo]

After the additional cleaning, the mint mark looks much better ))