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Anonymous, As, Rome, 157/156 BC Janus I Galley I Roma
« on: July 22, 2015, 03:38:51 pm »
Hi all,

i bought this Coin with some questions.

How are these coins made, looks like 2 halves struck on one another?

Seller had also Crawf. 197-198 B/1 a as reference but looks like its Crawford 56/2 i dont know what /2 means.

What does I mean?


Reference.
BMC 217; Crawford 56/2.; Sydenham 143

Obv:
Laureate and bearded head of Janus above, I.

Rev: Prow of galley right; above, I. below, ROMA

29.87 gr
33 mm
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Re: Anonymous, As, Rome, 157/156 BC Janus I Galley I Roma
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2015, 03:44:56 pm »
you will probably get better reults posting this in the Roman section.

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Re: Anonymous, As, Rome, 157/156 BC Janus I Galley I Roma
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2015, 03:53:19 pm »
you will probably get better reults posting this in the Roman section.

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Hi Peter,

its Roman coins  ???
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Re: Anonymous, As, Rome, 157/156 BC Janus I Galley I Roma
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2015, 04:04:12 pm »
Nice coin.  I asked a similar question last year about the flan and the answer was instructive.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=93646.0

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Re: Anonymous, As, Rome, 157/156 BC Janus I Galley I Roma
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2015, 04:07:32 pm »
Nice coin.  I asked a similar question last year about the flan and the answer was instructive.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=93646.0

thank you i'll look into it.
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Re: Anonymous, As, Rome, 157/156 BC Janus I Galley I Roma
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2015, 04:10:07 pm »
Crawford  156 / 2  means there is a Crawford 156 / 1
And when a message is edited its good manners to say so.

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Re: Anonymous, As, Rome, 157/156 BC Janus I Galley I Roma
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2015, 04:24:35 pm »
Crawford  156 / 2  means there is a Crawford 156 / 1
And when a message is edited its good manners to say so.
i see aand thank you, another question already answered.

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Re: Anonymous, As, Rome, 157/156 BC Janus I Galley I Roma
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2015, 04:03:52 am »
Hi Eric

To understand how these coins where made I found this post very instructive

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=86704.0

And by the way: Nice coin.

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Re: Anonymous, As, Rome, 157/156 BC Janus I Galley I Roma
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2015, 04:25:13 am »
Hi Eric

To understand how these coins where made I found this post very instructive

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=86704.0

And by the way: Nice coin.

Best regards
Norbert

Thank you even more info.
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Re: Anonymous, As, Rome, 157/156 BC Janus I Galley I Roma
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2015, 05:58:22 am »
Quote from: okidoki on July 22, 2015, 03:38:51 pm
Hi all,

i bought this Coin with some questions.

How are these coins made, looks like 2 halves struck on one another?

Seller had also Crawf. 197-198 B/1 a as reference but looks like its Crawford 56/2 i dont know what /2 means.

What does I mean?


Reference.
BMC 217; Crawford 56/2.; Sydenham 143

Obv:
Laureate and bearded head of Janus above, I.

Rev: Prow of galley right; above, I. below, ROMA

29.87 gr
33 mm

Hi

It's a lovely coin, probably in the best 5% in condition terms, as these coins come.

Your question on the offset flan was well answered by Norbert - the thread he links to gives a full explanation.

No-one answered the other half of your question so I will try.

Michael Crawford wrote the definitive catalogue of Roman Republican coins in 1974. He divided the coinage into 550 "issues", each representing a series of coins issued by one moneyer. Each of the 550 issues is divided (where necessary) into the different denominations and varieties. In the case of Crawford 56, 56/1 is the highest denomination of that series (dupondius or two-as piece, with Minerva on obverse), 56/2 is the as (your coin, with Janus), 56/3 is the semis or half-as with Saturn obverse, 56/4 is the triens or third-as with Minerva obverse, 56/5 is the quadrans or fourth-as piece with Hercules obverse, 56/5 is the sextans or sixth-as piece with Mercury obverse, 56/7 is the uncia with Roma obverse and 56/8 is the half uncia or semuncia with Mercury obverse. There were 12 unciae in an as, and each type was also marked with its denomination as follows:
56/1 dupondiua II
56/2 as I
56/3 semis S
56/4 triens oooo
56/5 quadrans ooo
56/6 sextans oo
56/7 uncia o
56/8 semuncia (no value mark)

Andrew

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Re: Anonymous, As, Rome, 157/156 BC Janus I Galley I Roma
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2015, 07:14:18 am »
Hi Andrew,

Thank you very much, now i understand all.

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