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« Reply #125 on: May 03, 2018, 09:55:50 am »

The first is a 1524 L-3 Hungarian Denar under King Louis II variation with points surrounding the digits in the date;Huszar 853,Unger 677c,Pohl 258-10.

The second is a1479-90 with an n-2 snakes mint mark under Matthias Corvinus with the first M (MONETA) missing in the legend;Huszar 720,Unger 566j,Pohl 232-10.

The third is a 1479-86 K-P with a backward K in the mint mark;Huszar 719 var.,Unger 565b var.,Pohl 221-1 var.
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« Reply #126 on: May 04, 2018, 01:00:58 pm »

Great coins,  Smiley Thumbs Up

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« Reply #127 on: May 05, 2018, 01:28:09 pm »

Thank you,Quadrans. Smiley
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« Reply #128 on: May 10, 2018, 09:52:29 pm »

Very interesting coins. Stkp
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« Reply #129 on: May 12, 2018, 01:37:19 pm »

Thank you,Stkp. It is amazing how many different varieties and legend variations there are.
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« Reply #130 on: June 07, 2018, 08:54:22 am »

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1. 1531 eagle wings Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 961,Unger 744o. The eagle wings are a little more visible in hand than the picture. Reverse n's in the legend and an x over the crest are traits of the eagle wing denar. Another thing that interferes with the eagle wings is the obverse is double struck and the eagle wings are opposite in the same place as the date.

2. 1471-81 K-PV under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar;Huszar 718,Unger 564e,Pohl 219-5.

3.1470 n-hammers under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13. This variety is the Madonna without stole.
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« Reply #131 on: June 07, 2018, 03:41:21 pm »

Interesting coins...

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« Reply #132 on: June 07, 2018, 04:03:46 pm »

Thank you,Quadrans. Smiley
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« Reply #133 on: July 12, 2018, 04:53:47 pm »

1. 1554 N-C Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I variation with points under the Madonna and points and stars in the legend instead of rosettes;Huszar 953,Unger 745l.

2. 1455 B-L/star under King Ladislaus V. I don't see this mint mark in the catalogues,but I do see one with + over the L Huszar 664var,Unger 523var,Pohl 187-2var.

3.1384/85 G-M under Queen Maria with "REGINE UNGARIE" legend variation;Huszar 569var,Unger 443dvar,Pohl 114-4var.
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« Reply #134 on: July 12, 2018, 10:34:27 pm »

Both are great, Edward,  Wink Thumbs Up

My favorite the Maria denar, Smiley

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« Reply #135 on: July 12, 2018, 11:03:59 pm »

Thank you.Quadrans. Smiley
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« Reply #136 on: July 14, 2018, 02:46:22 pm »

Quote from: quadrans on July 12, 2018, 10:34:27 pm
Both are great, Edward,  Wink Thumbs Up
My favorite the Maria denar, Smiley
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Agreed. For more information on this particular variation of the Maria, bearing the same mark, please refer to my example:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-51280

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« Reply #137 on: August 19, 2018, 09:21:23 am »

The first is a 1447-52 B-I Hungarian Denar under John Hunyadi with a legend variation TEMPORE.GUBERNATORIS instead of TEMPORE.IO.GUBERNATOR which isn't in the catalogues;Huszar 623var,Unger 486avar,Pohl 177-1var.

The second is a 1440/41 L-P. Hungarian Denar under King Ladislaus V. It is a variation with a point after the P in the mint mark not in the catalogues;Huszar 643var,Unger 494lvar,Pohl 150-10var. I have another one of these but this has slightly better details.

The third is a 1390-1427 S under Sigismund of Luxemburg. It is a variation with the mint mark on the left side of the cross;Huszar 576,Unger 449.mu.Pohl 117-8.
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« Reply #138 on: August 19, 2018, 05:51:08 pm »

All very nice finds. Stkp
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« Reply #139 on: August 19, 2018, 06:19:09 pm »

Thank you,Stkp. Smiley
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« Reply #140 on: August 19, 2018, 06:35:29 pm »

Hi Edward, nice examples,

about the János Hunyadi denar, both of the legends exist, but depends on which privy mark and which date...
because of the position of him...


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« Reply #141 on: August 19, 2018, 07:59:49 pm »

Thank you Quadrans. I have the other legend variation also on the B-I mint mark. Smiley
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« Reply #142 on: September 12, 2018, 09:17:52 am »

The first one is a 1383(Huszar and Unger)/1383-85(Pohl) Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria with a lily-lily mint mark;Huszar 566,Unger 442f,Pohl 112-2.

The second is a 1077-95 Hungarian Denar under King Ladislaus I;Huszar 27,Unger 22,CAC/Opitz Vol.1/10.8.b2.1/14. It has a sigla consisting of 2 wedges between the A and U in LADISLAUS.
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« Reply #143 on: September 16, 2018, 11:33:06 am »

Nice coins. Stkp
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« Reply #144 on: September 16, 2018, 12:10:56 pm »

Thank you,Stkp. Thumbs Up
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« Reply #145 on: September 24, 2018, 12:10:20 pm »

Great coins Edward,
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« Reply #146 on: September 24, 2018, 12:47:00 pm »

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« Reply #147 on: October 07, 2018, 10:34:04 am »

The first one isn't medieval,but a 1622 K-B Hungarian Denar under Gabor Bethlen;Huszar Transylvania 455,Unger 272a,KM#120.

The second is a 1546 K-B under King Ferdinand I with a 5 pointed star after the date and 3 under the Madonna;Huszar 935,Unger 745a.

The fourth is most likely a contemporary counterfeit that shows a "date" of 555 (or  reverse 222) and an L-K mint mark that was used during King Louis II's reign.


The third is a 1520 K-G under King Louis II with VNGAR legend variation on obverse;Huszar 841,Unger 673m,Pohl 255-1. It has a blue patina in obverse legend and a pale red in the center.
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« Reply #148 on: October 07, 2018, 10:53:46 am »

The first is a 1470 n-hammers under Matthias Corvinus with points in the legend (I already have the variation with circles in the legend);Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13.

The second a 1445/46 B-star/nInterregnum II billon with MOnETA.UnGARIE.REGNI instead of MOnETA.REGNI.UNGARIE;Huszar 613,Unger 480c,Pohl 173-3.

The third a 1373-82 under King Louis I Saracen head with no points around the double cross;Huszar 547,Unger 432a,Pohl 89-1.

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« Reply #149 on: October 07, 2018, 09:06:35 pm »

All nice. Stkp
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