Alexandrian dichalkon, unpublished type?

[ukedem]

Hello all,

Back again with another Alexandrian type. It is 13mm/1.15gms

Obv. Ibis standing right within dotted border
Rev. Crocodile?/ ichneumon? left within dotted border

The reverse type is beyond me and the closest I could come was either a crocodile or an  ichneumon.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Elias

[Kurt E]

Elias,
   There is an issue attributed to Caligula with an Ibis and a crocodile, but I don't see anything that looks like a date on your coin.  I'm wondering if this is something other than Alexandrian.

Kurt

Edit:  Sorry, Augustus.

http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=163434

[ukedem]

Kurt,

I found a couple of the Augustus types...

This type (for some reason attributed to the reign of Trajan by the auction house) doesn't appear to be dated;

http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=73450

Elias

[Kurt E]

Yes, that one does seem to fit with yours better.  However, the BMC coin they cite has a date L KA listed which likely makes it the Augustan issue.

Kurt

[Kurt E]

Elias,
   I just looked at a magnified version of your picture.  Is that a very small L below, a K at 3:00, and an A 11:00?  If so, I think you may have your answer.

Kurt

[ukedem]

You could be onto something there Kurt!

With a little imagination I can almost see all 3 letters The 'A' is clearer but would need to clean it up
a little more to be sure about the others and I'm a little reluctant to do it... really nice coin as it is.

Elias

[iwaniw]

ukedem:

I do not see a crocodile on the reverse, but perhaps a baboon or octopus-- neither of which is certain.

Is the coin AE or lead (scratch edge with fingernail to see if it is soft)?

Nice coin!

Iwaniw

[ukedem]

Sorry Iwaniw, I didnt see your reply!

The coin is AE.

[iwaniw]

ukedem

Being AE and not lead, the coin is less likely to be Alexandrian.


Iwaniw

[bpmurphy]

Looks to me like a Hadrian Dichalkon made from two reverse dies, Ibis/Elephant.

Barry Murphy

[iwaniw]

Hi Barry:

An interesting idea, but I can not make out any certain dates on either side. Die angle looks like 12h. A tetradrachm struck with 2 obverse dies would be at 6h (and I assume it also applies to 2 reverse dies), however these small issues might have been manufactured by a different method.

Iwaniw

[bpmurphy]

Dichalkon's tend to have 12:00 die axis.

I can't make out the dates either, just basing my guess on the types.

Barry