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Offline FlaviusDomitianus

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Hello everyone.

It's always nice to spot new types or variants, so I'm glad to share my last find.

The last edition of RIC lists two obverse types in combination with this reverse: laureate head (RIC 791), bust draped and cuirassed (RIC 792).

The aegis, as on my coin, was unpublished so far for this last Domitian issue of denarii.

The variant was overlooked by the seller.

Kind regards

Alberto


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Re: An unpublished bust variant on a Domitian "Flying Minerva" denarius
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2015, 03:32:48 pm »
This is such a wonderful piece on so many levels. Solid evidence that this new series of denarii was considered special by the mint!

Congrats and well spotted!

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Re: An unpublished bust variant on a Domitian "Flying Minerva" denarius
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2015, 05:34:38 pm »
Thanks David, I'm sure that there is much more to be discovered about this last issue.

Albert.

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Re: An unpublished bust variant on a Domitian "Flying Minerva" denarius
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2015, 07:53:00 pm »
Amazing. I was watching this auction too, and was a little puzzled to see the bids shoot so high. I thought it was the beautiful reverse, but now I understand. Congrats!

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Re: An unpublished bust variant on a Domitian "Flying Minerva" denarius
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2015, 12:09:41 am »
Congrats Alberto, great find.

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Re: An unpublished bust variant on a Domitian "Flying Minerva" denarius
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2015, 03:45:09 pm »
Hello everyone.

It's always nice to spot new types or variants, so I'm glad to share my last find.

The last edition of RIC lists two obverse types in combination with this reverse: laureate head (RIC 791), bust draped and cuirassed (RIC 792).

The aegis, as on my coin, was unpublished so far for this last Domitian issue of denarii.

The variant was overlooked by the seller.

Kind regards

Alberto


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 Nice and Interesting coin Alberto  ;)

 Congratulation  +++ :o

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Re: An unpublished bust variant on a Domitian "Flying Minerva" denarius
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2015, 08:25:33 pm »
The aegis, as on my coin, was unpublished so far for this last Domitian issue of denarii.

The aegis wouldn't be so unusual if it were known on denarii of the preceding issue with TR P XIIII, or on Domitian's Temple denarii which also seem to have been struck around this time.

The fact is, however, that though the aegis had been common on Domitian's denarii in 84-5, it had more or less disappeared from that denomination from 86 on. So it is surprising to see the aegis reappearing on a few rare denarii of 88 (RIC pp. 304-5), and now again on this previously unpublished denarius of 95-6!
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Re: An unpublished bust variant on a Domitian "Flying Minerva" denarius
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2015, 05:12:28 am »
Thanks for your comment Curtis.

I've forwarded the coin to prof. Carradice.

He wrote me back that he and prof. Buttrey in the meantime have recorded a new denarius with a temple reverse.

It appears that this last issues (including AE) have a greater variety than most of those of previous years and this, in his opinion, could be linked to Domitian's 15th anniversary.

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Alberto


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Re: An unpublished bust variant on a Domitian "Flying Minerva" denarius
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2015, 10:59:19 am »
It appears that these last issues (including AE) have a greater variety than most of those of previous years and this, in his opinion, could be linked to Domitian's 15th anniversary.

I am skeptical of this idea, since there was no observable quinquennalian issue of coins for Domitian in 86 and no decennalian issue in 91.

It's always best to follow Eckhel's principle I think: if we have no apt and probable explanation for a phenomenon, then we should frankly admit that the causes are unknown. It is astonishing, Eckhel continues, how much light Roman coins can cast on a great many matters; so we should not find it disgraceful to admit that some other questions apparently cannot be answered.
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