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 51 
 on: Today at 10:22:52 am 
Started by Molinari - Last post by Jay GT4
Really, really, really nice!  Grin

I don't know what else to say, they are great.  Congrats to you both!

 52 
 on: Today at 10:12:22 am 
Started by Molinari - Last post by Molinari
Here is my most recent acquisition.  But it isnít all mineÖin fact, Iíve split the lot with my close friend and co-author, Taras.  These were described in the Christiesí catalog as Etruscan situla fittings, each depicting Achelous. Note the lack of horns, common among Near Eastern representations of lamassus, or winged man-faced bulls, which find a place on some issues of Greek coinage.  It is unclear if the original artist intended Achelous or a lamassus, since Achelous evolved from the lamassu tradition and the transmission took place over hundreds of years.  Perhaps he intended both: Achelous in the form of a lamassu.

These were likely found in a grave, since we know situlas were often placed in graves with ritual offerings, and the man-faced bull is very often found in graves and was worshiped as a chthonic, liminar deity, for thousands of years.  The man-faced bullís association with water, which the situla likely contained, reinforces this point.  Altogether the fittings are extremely important for our study because they occur at an important time in the history of the transmission of the iconography from east to west, and still contain the clearly eastern iconographic element of wings.  A dealer once said to me, when giving me a great deal on a coin, "sometimes coins just belong with certain people."  I think these belonged with us, at least for now Smiley

In order to determine who gets which one, we decided to roll a translucent blue  icosahedron (the icosahedron was an ancient symbol of water in, e.g., Platoís Timaeus).


A Pair of Etruscan Situla Fittings, circa 5th Century B.C. Bronze, 1 3/8 in. (3.5 cm) high for the taller. Each depicting a man-faced bull, possibly Achelous, their faces similar but not identical, with short wings projecting from the sides of the head incised with two rows of parallel lines at the edges, the center with a feather pattern, each wing preserving the original rivet for attachment, the bearded god with long pointed ears, almond-shaped eyes, prominent moustache and full lips, wearing a cap surmounted by a ring for the attachment of the handle, each preserving part of the vessel wall. Modern pinholes in reverse for mounting. Ex S. Donati, Lugano 1982; Ex. Christies Sale 9666, lot 52.


http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-118918



 53 
 on: Today at 09:43:11 am 
Started by Frans Diederik - Last post by Frans Diederik
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Is yours a different die from Ferrando's?
Yes,
He differentiates between bust types and obverse breaks, which makes it rather complicated.
The laureate head right is the main bust type, the cuirassed, a rather rare one, with p*AR and S*AR. It is with hthe second officina coin (F 455) that a dot is visible between the XXs.
The same mintmark also occurs with the laureate only bust for both officinae.
There are, however some special ones: dot S*AR and CONSTAN dot - TINVS AVG obverse. So the conclusion can be that Arelate 'did' something with dots....


Frans

 54 
 on: Today at 09:33:59 am 
Started by Danny N - Last post by Zaph0dd
This is what I see it as, and im probably wrong anyway...

My agrippa vs Mr mystery

 55 
 on: Today at 09:22:08 am 
Started by Ghengis Jon - Last post by Ghengis Jon
Thank you!

 56 
 on: Today at 09:04:02 am 
Started by kommodore_ss - Last post by areich
It's like a cloud, it can be anything you want it to be.  Smiley

 57 
 on: Today at 08:35:29 am 
Started by Frans Diederik - Last post by otlichnik
Personally I don't think it has much meaning.  Could easily be done by an engraver for spacing or just because he thought it looked better.  The mint marks changed at Arelate at this time fairly frequently so I am not sure there would have been need for extra "secret" marks to divide up issues into smaller groupings but who knows.

Is yours a different die from Ferrando's?

Shawn

 58 
 on: Today at 08:27:32 am 
Started by Frans Diederik - Last post by Frans Diederik
No views?

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 59 
 on: Today at 08:20:58 am 
Started by Russell J - Last post by stlnats
Should I leave well enough alone, or clean it? If I should clean it: why? Finally, how should I clean it?

I think your answer can be found in the last line of your post.  Cleaning might improve the appearance, but carries some risk, often irreversable, in terms of screwing up the process, finding something undesirable underneath, removing the nice patina, etc.  Cleaning can be delayed with no real ill effects to the coin (unless it involves bronze disease which is not the case here).  Your post indicates that you don't have the experience to know what you're doing so it would be wise to leave the coin as it is. If the stuff really bothers you and you just can't wait, then you'd be wise to consider paying an experienced conservator to handle it.


 60 
 on: Today at 08:05:00 am 
Started by Vanry - Last post by Vlad P
David, Losses of weight in 0.5 grams correspond to bad cleaning and corrosion (on a coin not considerably of traces of bad cleaning). losses of weight in 1 gram is other composition of metal (purer modern silver weighs less, than antique) for such condition of a coin. Molding defect in the top part of a helmet.
(Are visible partially) traces of a molding seam on a coin edge. On an edge of a coin there are processing traces a file.
It is the cast copy, it is artificial made old by sand, dirt, etc.
Very qualitative fake.

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