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Numismatic and History Discussions => Medieval, Islamic and Crusader Coins => Topic started by: Stkp on January 22, 2014, 08:25:31 am



Title: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on January 22, 2014, 08:25:31 am
In the last few days I have added five of the coins that I obtained at the NYINC to my personal gallery (more to follow  :)).  All of them are coins that are outside of my traditional "comfort zone," and I had a lot of fun attributing them more completely than the attribution provided on the dealers' flips, and learning about them.  While I value concentrating in an area of numismatics, there is something to be said for venturing forth and dabbling in new areas.

Crusader States, Principality of Antioch, Bohemond III
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-105919

Feudal France:  Dukes of Aquitaine, William X
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-105918

Feudal France:  Duchy of Brittany, John I
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106001

Feudal France:  Champagne, Provins & Sens, anonymous
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-105992

Feudal France:  Gien, Geoffrey III
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-105917

As these coins are all outside of my area of knowledge, any corrections, comments or additional information would be appreciated.  I do enjoy the medievals, and hope to develop more of a library and a greater knowledge over time.

Stkp


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: quadrans on January 22, 2014, 09:14:13 am
Hi Stkp :)

 Nice to hear you.. +++

Nice Gallery .. I like it very much..
 Thaks for sharing...

Regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on January 24, 2014, 10:40:44 pm
I have just added two more recent additions obtained at the NYINC to my personal gallery.  Both are AE jitals issued by the Khwarezm Shahs, Ala al Din Muhammad ibn Tekesh (1200-1220 A.D.).

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106074

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106073

I had not encountered these before and selected some of the few in a box of over 100 that were fully struck on both sides.  Interesting little coins...

Stkp


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on January 27, 2014, 06:59:08 pm
I just added three recently acquired Cilician Armenian coins to my personal gallery:

Hetoum I, tram
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106143

Smpad, kardez
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106142

Levon IV, pogh
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106141

These are rapidly becoming some of my favorite medieval coins.  The coppers can still be acquired in "junk" boxes for under $10 each, and present attribution challenges.  Any comments or corrections would be appreciated.

Stkp


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: quadrans on January 29, 2014, 11:36:07 pm
Hmmm Interesting coins  :) +++

Q.


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on January 30, 2014, 06:00:37 am
Hmmm Interesting coins  :) +++

Q.

Thanks, Joe.  All of the coins that I have been posting on this thread and will continue to post on it were purchased at the NYINC this January.  My sense is that I spent less in total on all the coins that I obtained there than some participants on this board spent on a single coin there  (The Armenian coppers, for example, cost only $5.00 each, and are not "investment" quality coins, yet the time spent in studying them bought much more than $5.00 worth of pleasure).  There are multiple approaches to collecting and to attending a coin show, and my example illustrates that one need not feel that a large international show like the NYINC is only worth attending if one is looking for higher-end coins.  There are niches for all of us in this hobby.

Stkp


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Andrew McCabe on January 30, 2014, 06:49:28 am
Thanks, Joe.  All of the coins that I have been posting on this thread and will continue to post on it were purchased at the NYINC this January.  My sense is that I spent less in total on all the coins that I obtained there than some participants on this board spent on a single coin there  (The Armenian coppers, for example, cost only $5.00 each, and are not "investment" quality coins, yet the time spent in studying them bought much more than $5.00 worth of pleasure).  There are multiple approaches to collecting and to attending a coin show, and my example illustrates that one need not feel that a large international show like the NYINC is only worth attending if one is looking for higher-end coins.  There are niches for all of us in this hobby.

Stkp

They are very interesting coins, and your interest in bronzes warms my heart. Some of my non-investment-grade bronzes bought at NYINC cost between $50 and $125 and that includes some of the coins I'm proudest of (including a new unique type, and a new unpublished overtype), notwithstanding the kinds words given to the EF denarii! I particularly like the billon jitals with elephants.


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on January 30, 2014, 11:08:35 am
I particularly like the billon jitals with elephants.

I had never before seen these particular jitals with elephants until this year's NYINC.  They were also from a $5.00 box.  Stkp


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on January 30, 2014, 07:44:38 pm
While my purchases of medieval Hungarian coins at this year's NYINC were unexceptional, I did happen upon a coin weight for a Hungarian ducat (aranyforint = gulden).

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106219

I would like to learn more about coin weights.  If anyone has a copy of Withers, I would greatly appreciate a scan of the pages pertaining to coin weights for Hungarian ducats.

Stkp


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Flyjunkie on January 31, 2014, 10:01:49 am
Thanks for posting your Cilician Armenian Coins... seems now i am a collector of them as I own 6 of them, so it is nice to see others' coins and hopefully I'll learn more about them.

So I have increased my area of collecting from just Late Roman and Byzantine to include Cilicain Armenian, Spanish & Siclian Medieval coins...  ::) 8)

THanks for sharing... +++

DEAN ~~~


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: quadrans on January 31, 2014, 10:13:11 am
Hi Stkp your hungarian coin weight are amazing..,
and the history behind them are also very interesting thank for posting

Best regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on February 02, 2014, 06:11:33 pm
The one ancient coin that I bought at the NYINC is a Macedonian bronze from Antigonos Gonatas:

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106286

Turning to my purchases of medieval Hungarian (finally), three denars from Charles Robert, all of the same type but with different mint-marks (one of a superior strike for the type):

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106285
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106287
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106283

When I don't encounter new types at a show, I satisfy my desire to buy with mint-marks...


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: quadrans on February 03, 2014, 02:07:45 am
Hi Stkp

Both of them are good pick up.. +++

Regards
 Joe


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on February 03, 2014, 06:18:27 pm
Here are four parvii (is that the correct plural of parvus?) from medieval Hungary, issued by Sigismund of Luxembourg (1387-1437), the Holy Roman Emperor .  These small coins (10 mm) are typically struck on flans that are too small for the die, and I look for coins that have unambiguous mint-marks.  I culled these four from a bag that must have contained several hundred coins.  Pohl lists over 100 different mint-mark combinations for this coin.

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106310
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106311
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106312
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106313

Stkp


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: quadrans on February 06, 2014, 08:05:03 am
Nice coins ..

 It is OK they have too many combination.. :)

 Q.


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on February 06, 2014, 09:19:28 am
Thanks, Joe.

Here are the last of my new acquisitions, all medieval Hungarian.

The first two are quartings of Sigismund of Luxembourg.  Once again, Pohl lists over 100 mint-mark combinations for this coin, which is often so poorly struck that the marks cannot be discerned.  This one, from a Transylvanian mint, is a clearer strike than is usually encountered:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106356
This one is quite mediocre, but the price was right, and it has a mint-mark combination that I can't identify in either Pohl or Unger.  If anybody knows of any published literature identifying this mint-mark combination, it would be appreciated:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106357

Finally, a dated inflationary denar of Louis II:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106355
(the second half of the mark bearing the "K" is readily apparent on the coin but not on the scan.

Stkp



Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: quadrans on February 08, 2014, 01:21:34 pm
Hi Stkp Congratulation your good choice  :)

This is one of mine Lajos II. "Moneta Nova":

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106401

Regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on February 27, 2014, 06:06:57 am
I recently added two denarii struck Béla IV (1235-1270) of Hungary to my gallery:

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106884
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106883

Stkp


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: quadrans on March 02, 2014, 01:04:05 am
Hi Stkp

I realized your nice new coins.. :) +++

 I also put some new in my Gallery :

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=31252&pos=0

Regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on April 24, 2014, 06:21:47 am
I recently added to my gallery four denarii minted by Charles Robert of Hungary in 1388.  All four of them are the same type (Huszar 495) but bear different mint/privy marks, two of which are not recorded in Huszar, Pohl or Unger.  If anyone is aware of any published information concerning this type with those apparently unrecorded marks, the information would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-108929      Pohl 52-10, Unger 393i
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-108928      Pohl 52-11, Unger 393j
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-108927      apparently unrecorded
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-108926      apparently unrecorded

Stkp






Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: quadrans on April 30, 2014, 09:36:18 am
Hi Stkp all are  nice addition .. :) +++

 Best regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on May 22, 2014, 05:36:55 am
I am not deeply involved in Roman Imperial Coinage but dabble from time-to-time.  I just posted four Roman coins to my personal galleries -- the first posts of Roman coins by me in quite some time. 

One of them, which I was very happy to find, is a lovely fully silvered camp gates of Constantine I:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-109619

Two are Antoniniani of Gallienus:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-109601
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-109600

Finally, one is an AE3 of Valentinian I:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-109599

Stkp


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on June 25, 2014, 06:16:38 am
I recently posted a number of coins to my gallery:

Ancient Greek:
Pamphylia, Perga AE: 
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-109826
Parthia, Orodes II, AR drachm:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-109979

Medieval Hungary
Janos Hunyadi, AR denar (interesting legend variation): 
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-109740

Other Medieval European
Bohemia, Wladidslaus II, AR pragergroschen:     
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-109742
German States, Schwabisch Hall, AR handheller: 
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-109741

Cilician Armenia
Hetoum II, AE kardez: 
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-109827

Islamic
Ghaznavids, Mahmud, AR broad dirhem:   
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-110253
These are apparently sufficiently obscure that I was unable to obtain any attribution assistance on this forum.

Any corrections, etc. would be appreciated.

Stkp


Title: New Miscellaneous Medieval Coins in My Gallery
Post by: Stkp on January 15, 2018, 04:17:41 pm
I just added two new medieval European coins to my gallery (not including my newest medieval Hungarian coins, which are the subject of a different thread). I have not posted to this thread for quite some time, and am activating it to, hopefully, stimulate more discussion of medieval coins.

The first is a denaro issued in 1269 by the Italian city of Aquileia, under Patriarch Gregorio di Montelongo (1251-1269):
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-143162
I have taken a liking to the coinage of this city. This coin is my fifth (and I should have a few more to post shortly). The others are:
Struck 1398-1401 under Patriarch Antonio I Gaetani (1395-1402):
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-137455
and
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-137456
Struck 1402-1403 under Patriarch Antonio II Panciera (1402-1411):
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-137457
and
Struck 1412-1420 under Patriarch Ludovico II di Teck (1412-1439):
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-102428
This seems to be the most commonly encountered coin from this city in medieval times. It is also the coin that first attracted me to the coinage of this city. The Madonna and Child reverse caught my attention, as the same motif was used by Matthias Corvinus of Hungary (and succeeding Hungarian monarchs), albeit decades later.

My second new acquisition struck is a Bulgarian grosh struck ca. 1331-1355 by Ivan Aleksandar (1331-1371) and his son Mihail Ansen IV (1331-1355):
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-143170
It is a common coin. I like it a lot and may keep my eyes open for others from Bulgaria now.

There are so many coins, but never enough time (or money)...

Stkp





Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: quadrans on January 15, 2018, 11:36:58 pm
Nice coins, Steve,

I also collect coins from Aquileia,   ;)

I'll pick them up from my collection and make some photos... :) +++

Regards

Joe


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on January 16, 2018, 06:40:46 am
Thank you, Joe.
I look forward to seeing your coins (as always).
Stkp


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on January 26, 2018, 09:13:51 pm
I added two more denaro from Aquiliea to my gallery, both issued under Patriarch Bertrando di San Genesio (1334-1350):
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-143376
and
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-143377
Stkp



Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: quadrans on January 28, 2018, 06:41:48 am
Nice coins, Steve,

 Congratulation   +++

Joe


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on January 28, 2018, 07:15:41 am
Thank you, Joe. Stkp


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery
Post by: Stkp on June 16, 2018, 06:44:31 am
I have not been very numismatically active these last two months. Work has been very busy and I have been occupied by vacation planning and the final plans for my son's wedding (next week).

I recently added four medieval coins issued by the Kingdom of Sicily under the Normans to my gallery. They apparently attracted little interest as they received no views when posted. I was initially drawn to this series because so many of the coins were bilingual, a mix of Arabic and Latin. I currently have a dozen coins from the Normans of Sicily in my gallery. The four I added are:

A tiny (less than 8 mm.) billon kharruba issued by Roger I "Bosso" (Count, 1085-1101), who conquered Sicily and planted the de Hauteville dynasty there. Tje legends on this coin are entirely in Arabic, albeit with a prominent Greek letter as the major design feature:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-147070

An AE follaro issued by his son, Roger II (Count 1105-1130; King 1130-1154), the first of the dynasty to be crowned king. The legends on this coin are a mix of Greek and Latin (no Arabic). These are typically on a crowded flan with a weak strike, and this coin compares favorably for the type:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-147073

An AR kharruba (or fraction of dirhem), dated 553 or 554 A.H. (= 1158/59-1159/60 A.D.) issued by William I, "the Bad" (1154-1166). The legends on this coin are only in Arabic.
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-147072

Finally, an AR 1/4 tercenarius (or possibly half denaro) issued by Tancred (1189-1194). This is the only bilingual Arabic and Latin coin in the group. It was also issued on a crowded flan.
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-147071

As always, any thoughts or corrections to the attributions/descriptions would be welcome.

Stkp


Title: Re: Stkp's Gallery (some Islamic copper coins)
Post by: Stkp on January 28, 2019, 12:07:02 pm
I recently acquired eight Islamic copper coins that were being sold as 8th century Ummayad falus. So far, I have been able to attribute seven of them, none being Ummayad.

One is an Ayyubid fals:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152917

The others are all Mamluk falus:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152900
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152920
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152901
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152940
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152937
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152945

This is definitely not an area in which I am very familiar, and sadly do not read Arabic. Any thoughts/comments about my attributions and descriptions would be appreciated, as would be any assistance in translating the Arabic.

Stkp