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Title: ROMA sestertius, B denarius, Q (86) quinarius, anon incuse denarius
Post by: Andrew McCabe on April 03, 2012, 01:53:10 pm
Just showing off a bit, here are a few interesting recent acquisitions, all of the very highest rarity:

B denarius: not quite as good as the RBW examples but by normal standards just about as good as one can get:  
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7183/6897162977_e999360893.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahala_rome/6897162977/)

Q quinarius RRC 86/A1. What's special about this coin is that none of Babelon, Sydenham or Seaby RSC recognise this as an especially rare type because they confuse it with the common  RRC 102 quinarius. It is in the style of the H quinarius and completely unrelated to RRC102. When bought by me it was not even marked as scarce let alone as very rare:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7116/7042494753_ee1d6a44ae.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahala_rome/7042494753/)

Incuse RRC 45 denarius. The classic and likely first Roman denarius. Very ugly, but rather cheaper than the nicer $28,000 the RBW example fetched.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6686322549_97f2c80c8a.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahala_rome/6686322549/)

Best of all: ROMA sestertius, much nicer than the RBW example, and one of the very few coins in my collection that rates R9 by Sydenham (exceedingly rare):
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7241/7042496161_5ee6342980.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahala_rome/7042496161/)
Title: Re: ROMA sestertius, B denarius, Q (86) quinarius, anon incuse denarius
Post by: David Atherton on April 03, 2012, 04:19:28 pm
Congratulations on your recent rare acquisitions, especially the sestertius!
Title: Re: ROMA sestertius, B denarius, Q (86) quinarius, anon incuse denarius
Post by: maridvnvm on April 03, 2012, 04:30:19 pm
Wow.
Title: Re: ROMA sestertius, B denarius, Q (86) quinarius, anon incuse denarius
Post by: Steve E on April 03, 2012, 04:34:27 pm
Fantastic! You have the right to brag :angel:

~Steve
Title: Re: ROMA sestertius, B denarius, Q (86) quinarius, anon incuse denarius
Post by: Randygeki(h2) on April 03, 2012, 11:04:46 pm
 :o
Title: Re: ROMA sestertius, B denarius, Q (86) quinarius, anon incuse denarius
Post by: Andrew McCabe on April 04, 2012, 08:02:26 pm
Thanks for the appreciative replies. Some of you may wonder how does one find/buy such coins. So, to be clear, none were cheap but all except one were not expensive for what they are, but one has to move very fast (instantly) when such coins come up, i.e. make quick judgments on value. Of the three I'll certainly never get a better quality B den, Q quin or ROMA sest. I hope one day to get a clearer RRC 45 den (it was the relatively expensive one but it was very widely advertised and promoted so one day a better one may appear for reasonable prices: a VF-GVF say). An EF example of RRC 45 sold for $28,000 at the RBW sale. Not that that means much - EF Julius Caesar denarii routinely fetch such prices yet can be found for a few hundred dollars in "collector" condition.

The Q quin was on a well-known auction site but the seller didn't even mark it as scarce, and those with just Sear or Seaby RSC would have no idea that it was very rare; it sold for a modest price. If you had the RBW collection catalogue where a similar example sold for $700 you would have realised its rarity.

On the B denarius and ROMA sestertius I just moved very quick when I realised I could get them for fair prices. Very quick and decisively, no debating whether to ask for a haircut. To put my coins in context, a ROMA sest in merely fine condition fetched over $3,000 at the RBW sale. I paid significantly less for a VF-GVF example. And two examples of the B denarius, perhaps slightly nicer than mine, fetched over $7,000 each at RBW. I paid a small fraction for that at retail. In the case of the B and ROMA, hesitation would certainly have lost me these coins and possibly the only chance of every owning these rare types. I'll never have the financial resources that allowed a collection full of EF examples but nimble searches and quick decisions allow for a very reasonable 2nd division collection!

I may have left some budget collectors behind with the sort of single-coin prices one could buy a car for, but bargains are just as relevant in the $1000/$10,000 coin range as they are for $10/$100 coins. I'm an engineer on a salary, minding my pennies as much as the next.
Title: Re: ROMA sestertius, B denarius, Q (86) quinarius, anon incuse denarius
Post by: labienus on April 07, 2012, 02:29:59 pm
Congratulations, Andrew.
I went for both the Crawford and the RBW and I fully understand your point : you do like "hunting" as, when you have to shoot, well no time to assess for ages.
Well done and nice adds to your very impressive collection.
Pierre
Title: Re: ROMA sestertius, B denarius, Q (86) quinarius, anon incuse denarius
Post by: Diederik on April 07, 2012, 03:05:13 pm
Andrew,
The 'B' denarius is SOOOOO beautiful! What fantastic style and as you said the 'Q' quinarius is of the same crafmanship.
Congrats on all coins!


Frans