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I have been collecting provincials off and on using this rubric (by signed I mean bearing the magistrate's name) for a few years now (mostly off). I thought it would be interesting to put them into an album to share with others. Some of these I only have hand written notes for so it will take a little while to get them all out. The sort of coin one can get a lot of prosopographic delight out of, if you are interested in that sort of thing.
John Wrenn
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=3126
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I added a couple of Sicinnius Clarus coins:
City-gate reverse: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-57160
Hermes reverse: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-57161
The city-gate was a particularly fun purchase as I was able to track it down as a former member of Righetti's extensive provincial collection. cf. http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=99790
I have a couple of other coins from Righetti's collection, both of which came with his collection tags from the sellers.
Mionnet is such a great source for Greek Imperials!
JPW
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Even though it is not my specialty I can appreciate your coins. A nice grouping indeed! ;D
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I added three more today. A sort of three pack of Thracian governors under the Severan dynasty:
#1. Serdica Septimius Severus T. Statilius Barbarus (196-8 AD) from Forum Ancient Coins
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-57881
An interesting note on the attribution of this coin is the image of this coin in both Varbanov and Hr/J appears to be taken from Mushmov’s monograph, published in 1926. I was able to get my hands on the rare Mushmov Monnaies et les ateliers monetaires de Serdica. Here is a little review I wrote for my own notes:
Text in Bulgarian, but included at end is an abbreviated catalogue in French of legends and types corresponding to the fuller Bulgarian main text; 13 pages for Provincial. I have not checked it thoroughly, but the French text corresponding to #29 was listed as an Emperor reverse erroneously (need to switch #29 and #31). Has 12 plates (8 provincial + 4 Imperial). Mushmov seems to cite not only Ruzicka work in NZ from 1915 but many other articles. I din't really check any of the references for Imperial coins, not my area of interest. From a cursory glance Mushmov seems to be primarily making references to the collection at Sophia for Imperials. This monograph is 2/3 devoted to provincial coinage.
The langage is a big hurdle. I should just buckle down and learn the Cyrillic alphabet (it's not that different from Greek right?) and some basic numismatic vocabulary. I was able to discern the difference between Zeus and Emperor. It would be of service for Hristova/ Jekov volumes as well.
#2 Pautalia Septimius Severus Caecina Largus (198-9 AD)
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-57882
unpublished die combination
#3 Pautalia Plautilla Sicinnius Clarus (202AD)
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-57883
unpublished die combination
Thanks for the reply aragon6. It's fun to share and nice to know others are looking at something you spend a lot of time researching.
JPW
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Added three more dingy but delightful coins:
1. Anchialus Septimius Severus Statilius Barabarus Athena
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-58223
obverse die also used at Marcianopolis for coins struck by Auspex and Gentianus
attached is an example of this match
2. Pautalia Septimius Severus Caecina Largus Asklepios
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-58221
distinctive obv die break
3. Philippopolis Septimius Severus Statilius Barbarus Emperor & captive
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-58222
unpublished
JPW
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Two more Thracian coins bearing the governors' names:
1. Serdica Faustina Junior Cl. Appius Martialus (161-169 AD)
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-59849
Varbanov records KA instead of KΛ for governor’s abbreviated praenomen. (cf. 1887 & 1892; both depicted)
This coin is a little rough, but very handsome in hand!
2. Pautalia Antoninus Pius L. or A. Pompeius Vospiscus (under Pius)
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-59847
Stein reports that this governor, L. or A. Pompeius Vospiscus, is known only from coins.
BMC p. 141 #2; cf. Mionnet Supp. II p.368 #976; Ruzicka p. 43 #9 ; Varbanov (E)II 4379 (depicted) erroneously refers to Ruzicka #18 (same type with Gargilius Antiquus as magistrate)
Some more of my aquisition notes--
Ruzicka notes a slightly different legend break between his #9 and #10. #10 = Mionnet #976. The legend on Mionnet’s #976 is recorded as ΠOMΠHIOV. Mionnet writes just previously that the ΠOMΠHIOV orthography is correct while ΠOMΠEIOV is incorrect. (note a p. 367) Mionnet also lists an additional OY on the beginning of Pompeius Vospiscus’ gens nomen. I think this is a result of the placement of the legend break and the tendency of engravers, when transliterating to make the Latin consonant U = OU. Cf. Ruzicka’s obverse legend listings on p. 70 of Die Münzen von Pautalia for Lucius Verus. It is difficult to judge whether to view the OV as an inflection or transliteration of the initial Latin V on the gens nomen. BMC as V. A. Stein . It is interesting to note that Ruzicka records no examples of OVOΠEICKOV, except p. 43 #11 where the cognomen is spelled ΠOMΠHIOV. Mionnet ΠOMΠHIOV (#974-76).
But N. B. #973 ΠOMΠH. OVOΠEICKOV from Sestini Descript. Num.Vet. p. 64 No. 1 Asklepios rx and his note that Sestini remarked that an example had the ΠOMΠEIOV orthography. Then cf. the attached example from CNG. What exactly is the orthography on that specimen? Fascinating stuff!
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=64999
I'm always interested in comments or opinions!
JPW
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A battered example of one of three reverse dies of this type for L. Pullaienus Gargilius Antiquus.
1. https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-59967
cf. 2. http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=263550
CNG specimen has a different reverse die from mine and the coin illustrated in Varbanov (E), but identical legends. N.B. placement of Φ to cornucopiae and the spacing between the mural crown and legend.
cf. 3. http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=375331
different legend break to exergue
JPW
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the cng exp. is mindblowing. i remember seeing it a couple mths ago while looking for smth else on acsearch. also nice collection and thanks for sharing. although i find the small provincials more appealing and interesting, those large ones really leave enough space for the engraver to show his skills and immortalize local magistrates which might have been otherwise long forgotten.
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Thanks for the comment Andrei, I've been having fun with these coins lately!
A recent additon:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-60093
Varbanov (E) II 4957 p. 422 (depicted); Ruzicka -; Mionnet Supp. II -; BMC –
Varbanov obv dies FFFd and Xd appear to be the same (depicted on page 422, #4957 and 4956 respectively).
FFF = AVT KAICAP ANTΩNEINOC
X= AV KAICAP ANTΩNINOC
Varbanov legend X is the correct legend. He cites wildwinds.com, but I could not find his example. His specimen clearly different from this one, with a more complete reverse legend.
Ruzicka only records one example of this obverse die p. 139 #519 Asklepios rev. cf. attached Lanz Auction 117 (24 11 2003) lot 920 (=Varbanov (E) II 4956). Ruzicka records this reverse type for Clarus #521, but different legend.
JPW
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Here are two coins issued by Statilius Barbarus sharing an obverse die from Pautalia:
1. Hunting scene-
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-60131
2. Farnese Herakles-
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-60132
Obverse die recorded differently in Ruzicka and Mionnet from this specimen (both head with different legend), but reverse probable match. I follow Ruzicka’s reverse legend. A nice find!
JPW
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Three more T. Statilius Barbarus
Two unpublished from Philippopolis:
1. Eagle on globe
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-60175
Neno records the same coin as this one I saved an image of from an online dealer 2007/8, which is a double die match. Dealer wanted $300-$400. A nice example. I didn’t record weight. My coin displays the abbreviated praenomen T(itus) not visible on the better example.
No other examples with praenomen initial letter recorded for Philippopolis in Varbanov. Mionnet seems to be ignorant of this magistrate’s complete name (tria nomina). He erroneously records TIB (p. 462 # 1533 & 1534)here for Philippopolis and AIΛ for Pautalia (p.375 1024), to list just a few. A. Stein, in Römische Reichsbeamte der Provinz Thracia, discusses this topic on p.43 footnote 2. Apparently Imhoof-Blumer first noticed this feature on a coin from Philippopolis. Other examples are cited by Stein from PIR.
attached better example below
2. Helios
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-60174
cf. this thread https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=64649.0 for more
One more from Anchialos:
3. Tyche
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-60176
This one quite attractive, although fairly common.
JPW
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New reverse die of a type I already had (Caracalla Augusta Traiana Sicinnius Clarus city-gate):
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-60414
Quite a few of these reverse dies, Schönert-Geiss lists 4 (#228-31).
As I noted in another post recently, the illustrations in BMC are so accurate one may determine die differences from them. In this case the legends are different anyway, but the rx legend is obscured on my Righetti specimen so the BMC illustration aided my in identifying it correctly. cf. Placement of kappa in relation to central tower on my two examples.
Exhibits that squarish planchet shape of Imperial AE.
JPW
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A recent acquisition:
AE 30 15.71g Lucius Verus Philippopolis
Q. Tullius Maximus (161-169 AD)
Rev: HΓ K TO[VΛ MAΞIMOV ΦIΛI]ΠΠOΠOΛETIΩ
Homonoia standing facing, head left holding cornucopiae in left and patera over lit altar
Varbanov (E) III-; Mushmov Les Monnaies Antiques de Philippopolis (1924) -; Mionnet Supp. II -; BMC –
Unrecorded reverse type for signed coins of Lucius Verus and Marcus Aurelius; obverse die Varbanov Aa 907-8,910 all depicted
Reverse die exhibits the kappa for the praenomen Quintus
Although the kappa appears to be a fairly common feature on these signed coins from Philippopolis for LVerus this is my first specimen to have it.
The die engraver seems to have blundered the legend and transposed the iota and tau in the ethnic.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-62185
I have another unpublished Homonoia from Philippopolis coming from Germany that I shall post when it arrives.
JPW
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Two more additions:
1. Septimius Severus Philippopolis Statilius Barbarus Eagle on fulmen
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-62243
Cf. Mushmov (1924) 285 for type but different legends (the rx. legend recorded is largely incomplete “ends with ΛITΩN”)sic not this rx die.
2. Caracalla Serdica Caicina Largus Nike
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-62242
Some legend notes:
The example in Hr/J and Varbanov is faint on the governor’s name which led Varbanov to incorrectly abbreviate the gens nomen of the magistrate. Hr/J correctly records this portion of the legend but inserts additional letters in the ethnic.
Hr/J (p. 77) reads: Rev: HΓE KAIKINA ΛAPΓOV AVΛΠIAC
Ex:CEPΔIK
The initial alpha of AVΛΠIAC is clearly a mistake. Whether the rest of this ethnic is a typo or not I am unsure but there is not enough room for all those letters. It should read HΓE KAIKINA ΛAPΓOV OVΛΠIA
Ex:CEPΔI, although locating that initial lunate sigma of Serdica in the exergue is difficult on all three examples (counting Laney's, mine and the Varbanov/Hristova/Jekov specimen).
cf. https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=65709.0
I recycled the sellers' images for both since they came out better than my humble scans.
JPW
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As promised here is the other Homonoia from the other side of the pond. Although not as pretty and twice the price as the last Homonoia, still a noble portrait of Commodus, and unpublished.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-62474
For rx type under Commodus cf. Moushmov p. 236 #178 for C. Maternus
JPW
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Two more beauties:
1. Antoninus Pius Topirus Fabius Agrippinus (148AD) Heracles seated
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-62797
My first coin bearing this magistrate's name. Probably most accessible city and type for this governor.
2. Septimius Severus Caicina Largus (198-9AD) Pautalia Eagle on Fulmen
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-62798
Unpublished, although certainly not a surprising rx type.
attached is a better example of this obverse die. Ruzicka knew it with a Heracles and the inscription in wreath reverse dies (p. 93), but also cf. #286 temple p. 96. Lunate epsilon in CEVHPOC. typo or unlisted obv die?
A certain amount of irony is meant with “beauties” above. When I went to CICF this spring a dealer I was working out a trade with for a worn Nikopolis ad Istrum coin described the coin in question as “an academic item.” Perhaps a polite way of saying that it was not the most attractive coin in hand. Maybe not, but I think it is a lot of fun to find these unpublished gems.
JPW
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I think the term 'academic item' I will keep in mind!
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These are two coins which I posted before on the boards but had neglected to add to my album.
1. Serdica Septimius Severus Caecina Largus Temple
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-63043
unpublished with a legend blunder.
cf. discussion: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=63931.0
Thanks to Curtis for the clarification. Sometimes you need a different set of eyes to look at things.
2. Philippopolis Marcus Aurelius Q. Tullius Maximus Emperor + captive
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-63044
This coin exhibits the AΠOΔ VΠA title abbreviated for apod(edeigmenou) hupa(tou) denoting Tullius Maximus as the consul designatus.
JPW
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A new acquisition arrived today:
Serdica Caracalla Caecina Largus eagle on altar between standards
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-63226
This is one of my favorite reverse types for Thrace and Moesia.
A brief note:
This coin appears to be the very same specimen illustrated on page 60 (center) of Hristova/Jekov Serdica (2007). Obverse die not illustrated in Ruzicka or Mushmov.
JPW
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Xmas present to myself; I wish I could say it cost $10 (I know it looks like it did!), but super rare and unpublished.
Caracalla Serdica Caecina Largus river-god
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-63507
new reverse die
JPW
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Just had a look through your gallery, very interesting - wish I could pick a collecting theme but I am still collecting anything
Steve
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A new coin arrived from Germany today:
Antoninus Pius Philippopolis Zeus enthroned L. Pullaienus Gargilius Antiquus (161 AD)
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-64467
some further acquisition notes:
Varbanov cites Jean Elsen Auction 72 ( 14 December 2002 Brussells) lot 674 for V’s 683 and CNG Auction XXXIII (15 March 1995 Lancaster Penn.) lot 1219 for his 698. Double die match to each other and my worn specimen. I would like to think it is a match to Mionnet’s #1432, whose source was the reliable Vaillant, but difficult to be entirely sure of this match.
Vaillant claimed to only record coins he had seen personally. A valuable criterion for assessing accuracy. I tracked down the Vaillant reference but cannot understand his reference - March Test? Nummi Graeci Imperatorum (for short) (Amsterdam 1700) p. 47.
An interesting book, if superseded, by other works. In Latin too. Here is a link:
https://tinyurl.com/wdp2994
Thanks Steve; I am not as focused as my gallery may appear. These are just the coins which are easy to assign to distinctive groups.
JPW
Edit: Whoops, I made a mistake regarding the Vaillant/Mionnet reference. I was making dinner as I was posting this. Mionnet 1433 not 1432; sic sitting not standing. (I noticed the mistake in Vaillant, my Latin is much better than my French!)
So Mionnet cites Cabinet Haumont not Vaillant.
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Nifty new coin:
Pautalia Septimius Severus river-god
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-65508
Unpublished reverse die; different legend placement on reverse from Ruzicka 293 et 771a (n.b. placement of terminal lunate sigma near divinity's foot), also different obverse die (perhaps unpublished as well)
different reverse die from attached, although they are very similar. (Image from Arminius' gallery)
Image of my coin is recycled from seller.
JPW
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Actually this image / coin is owned by "Potator II", as indicated there.
He liberally contributed the picture to my gallery. :)
A.
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I wasn't sure about the ownership, I had saved the image as from your gallery. Thanks for the correction.
Latest addition:
Hadrianopolis Commodus Julius Castus city-goddess enthroned
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-66745
Some other notes regarding this coin pertaining to Arminius' gallery:
A double match for a better specimen in Arminius’ gallery:
[BROKEN LINK REMOVED BY ADMIN]
For an old thread discussing attribution:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=37382.0
recycled seller's image
JPW
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A couple of coins to add.
1. Augusta Traiana Lucius Verus Tullius Maximus City-gate
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-67389
seller's image
Some additional acquisition notes:
Schönert-Geiss cites Sallet Beschriebung der antiken Munzen (1888) p.239 #5 for her #79, a catalogue of the National collection at Berlin. Unfortunately this coin is not depicted in Sallet’s work, but I’ll take her word that it is a die match! Schönert-Geiss records 79 (her R 62) and 80 (R 63) as having different reverse dies but they look the same to me.
Varbanov is sloppy citing Schönert-Geiss, recording 79 for two difference obverse dies (919 & 920).
Varbanov cites Schönert-Geiss and Lanz auction Auction 102 (28.05.2001) lot 640 attached below for comparison. Realized 210 DEM ($94). My example is a double match for the Lanz specimen, which is also depicted in Varbanov, p. 83.
My coin was sold as Marcus Aurelius. Seller, from Germany, said the coin was taken from a collection from 1958 Auflösung der Sammlung(1958). No tags.
Acsearch link:
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=30765
Lanz’s description:
Bronze. AY K AIL AYPH - LIOC OYHPOC. Kopf mit Lorbeerkranz rechts. Rs: HGE TOYL MAXIMOY AYGOYCTHC / TPAIANHC. Befestigtes Stadttor mit drei zinnenbewehrten Rundtürmen und geschlossenen Torflügeln. Schönert-Geiss, S. 65, 80 (V 32/R 63). Price/Trell, S. 247, 79. 17,77 g.
Selten. Dunkle, braungrüne Patina, sehr schön.
2. Augusta Traiana Septimius Severus Statlius Barbarus Nike and biga
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-67133
posted in cotd a week or so ago. ex: Lanz
Again I would like to ask if someone with access to the auction (Gerhard Hirsch Nachfolder Auction 231; 26 November 2003 München lot 758) could check if my coin is the same coin offered in that auction; I would be very appreciative.
JPW
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Here is a new one I selected for the interesting arrangement of the reverse legend, with its many breaks, placement in fields and retrograde letters. Several Barbarus reverse dies from Philippopolis exhibit these characteristics.
Philippopolis Septimius Severus T. Statilius Barbarus (196-8 AD) Hera
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-67636
This week I also received a copy of Jurokova's monograph on Hadrianopolis. I had been trying to obtain a copy for about three years, so it was a good feeling to finally have one arrive from Bulgaria. Definitely not the easiest book to find. It has 66 plates which is nice and a long 114 page prolegomena but I need to work on my very limited knowledge of Bulgarian! The catalogue is 127 pages with 713 distinct types recorded. There is a 9 page resume in French at the end. I updated my attributions for my 2 coins from this city.
JPW
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Arrived from England today:
Philippopolis Commodus Caecilius Servilianus Athena
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-68583
A double die match is depicted in Varbanov (E) III on page 115. He cites the private collection of O. Gavrailov.
My scans are true to color, but obverse does not appear as worn in hand as this scan.
JPW
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Gorgeous coins, congrats!
b
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A battered, but rare addition:
Augusta Traiana Caracalla Sicinnius Clarus Dionysos
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-70018
I have another exciting Augusta Traiana coming from Germany that should arrive either this week or next. I'll post it when I have it in hand.
JPW
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Sooner than expected here is my exciting new addition:
Augusta Traiana Commodus Aemilius Iustus City-gate
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-70073
Although coinage for Commodus fairly rare at Augusta Traiana, here is another example of the ubiquitous city reverse.
N.B. Rx legend blunder AΓOV instead of AVΓOV…
Even though the rx legend is very difficult to read, I am fairly certain that this coin was issued during the tenure of Aemilius Iustus. There is another specimen that appears to share this obverse die with Aemilius Iustus clearly as the governor. A contributing criterion to this theory is the jumbled placement of the letters of the rx inscription. This characteristic is also present in the CNG example.
Cf. attached CNG Electronic Auction 83 (18.02.2004) lot 93. Their description:
THRACE, Augusta Traiana (Trajanopolis). Commodus. 177-192 AD. Æ 29mm (15.31 gm). L. Aem(ilius) Justus, hegemon. Laureate and draped bust right / River-god reclining left on upturned urn, holding reed; AIM IOVCTOV (magistrate). AMNG II -; cf. SNG Copenhagen 810 (Lucius Verus); BMC Thrace -; Mionnet -. VF, green patina, encrustation.
Stein dates the tenure of this magistrate as before 180 AD by the praenomen initial Λ(ucius) for Commodus, but these two examples both have M(arcus), which would indicate a date subsequent to 180 AD. Perhaps L. Aemilius Iustus was governor during the transitional period of Marcus Aurelius’ death and the ascension of Commodus to sole rule. The only examples Stein knew of were issued from Hadrianopolis. In Paul M. M. Leunissen’s more recent work, Konsuln und Konsulare in der Zeit von Commodus bis Severus Alexander (180-235 n. Chr.) (J.C. Gieben Amsterdam 1989) no new prosopographic information has been found.
Curtis Clay outlines the evidence presented in Römische Reichsbeamte der Provinz Thracia (1920)
p.32-33, which is highly relevant to dating my coin, (read Stein not Strack) along with some additional coins that have come to light recently. Like Claudius Bellicus, Aemilius Iustus is only known to modern scholars from the coinage of Hadrianopolis.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=38043.0
Stein tentatively places Aemilius Iustus between Claudius Bellicus and Titus Suellius Marcianus, but the obverse die evidence in Jurukova for Hadrianopolis seems to indicate that Aemilius Iustus was subsequent to Marcianus and just prior to Iulius Castus. There is no obverse die sharing between Aemilius Iustus and any other governor at Hadrianopolis, but employing the subjective technique of portrait style comparison, Commodus looks less mature in the Marcianus dies than on the Aemilius Iustus dies and more mature on the Iulius Castus dies than the Aemilius Iustus dies. The initial M of the praenomen on the two examples from Augusta Traiana support the other, more complete, evidence from Hadrianopolis.
I included the seller's image as it reveals some additional detail of the coin not captured in my scan. As usual my scan closer to actual color and it is possible to read much more of the legend in hand than can be seen in the images.
1. My scan
2. Seller's image
3. CNG river-god
I am very pleased to add this first specimen, issued by this governor, to my collection!
Comments always welcome!
JPW
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I have been patiently waiting for this one to arrive from Germany.
Philippopolis Antoninus Pius L. Pullaienus Gargilius Antiquus Tyche enthroned
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-71815
Looks like a boring type, but incredibly I could not find another example with the rudder attribute in any reference. These seated city-goddess dies were very prevalent under Gargilius at Philippopolis. The level of artistry is superb in my opinion.There appears to be a die break on the rho in the governor's name.
A nice, big, heavy coin in hand, with a hard shiny patina.
I wasn't able to hang with the high rollers in the recent CNG auction (which had several excellent signed imperial thracian coins), but this coin was a nice consolation prize!
JPW
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Arrived from England today:
Philippopolis Septimius Severus Statilius Barbarus (196-8 AD) Imperator Eques
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-73012
This coin is a definite double die match for Varbanov (E) III 1193. I think the legend listed by Varbanov, however, is incorrect. It seems likely to me that the coin he lists as 1193 is really Mushmov's 282 in Les Monnaies Antiques de Philippopolis (1924). Varbanov's 1195 with the decrepancy being the epsilon in the ethnic ΦIΛIΠΠO | Π OΛEITΩN
Mushmov's specimen was missing most of the ethnic, so the epsilon he recorded was speculative.
JPW
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I am intrigued by your collection but know nothing about this area.
Could you please say a little about the who, what, where, when and why of these coins.
Were all coins of a specific period signed or only some.
Also how rare are these coins compared with "unsigned" issues
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I recently acquired two examples of the same dies from Pautalia.
Pautalia Septimius Severus Caecina Largus (198-9 AD) River-god
specimen #1
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-73197
specimen #2
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-73198
Both coins, by different vendors, sold as Nikopolis ad Istrum.
Cf. this very nice example from a german auction a few years ago. Rauch mail bid 11 (12.09.06) lot 410
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=168440
These coins are all Ruzicka 293. The exemplum depicted in Ruzicka, from Sarajavo, had an incomplete legend and was holed at 3 o’clock on the rx. He thought the issuing governor was Sicinnius Clarus, but the Rauch specimen clearly demonstrates that it was the preceding governor, Caecina Largus.
Pitbull thanks for your interest. It is a tall order to answer all those questions you raise. Very briefly; "signed" are less common than "unsigned" (an awkward expression I know). It seems to denote the largest denominations (maybe 4 or 5 assaria coins, vierer und fünfer as dubbed by German scholars) issued by Thracian cities during the Antonine and early Severan dynasties, barring medallions. I like the big coins what can I say! Arthur Stein's Romische Reichsbeamte der Provinz Thracia (Sarajevo,1920) will answer your other questions.
JPW
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Here is another eques reverse from Thrace I added to my collection.
Commodus Hadrianopolis Caecilius Servilianus Imperator eques
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-73457
I was unable to find another rx die for this governor at Hadrianopolis which included the second kappa in the gens abbreviation KAIK
JPW
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Rescued from obscurity in Australia:
Serdica Septimius Severus T. Statilius Barbarus (196-98 AD) Tyche
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-75794
Varbanov (E)III 1966 (depicted) double die match; Ruzicka-; cf. Mushmov (1926) rx die match with different obv die (both depicted on Tafel VII) ; Hr/J 12.14.38.1 (depicted) double match- a very clear example; Mionnet -; BMC -; SNG Cop. -
This is the same obv die as CNG electronic auction 245 (1.12.10) Imperator eques
Varbanov misses the eta + gamma ligature on the rx
Coin illustrates the capitalized form of omega (inverted horseshoe).
On page 59 Mushmov (1926) records an example from the Sophia collection. He includes an interesting note regarding the blundered orthography of the magistrates’ cognomen Barbarus. With the aid of my 60 year old Bulgarian-English dictionary (R. Russev) I puzzled out the following crude translation of Mushmov’s note regarding this rx die. The Bulgarian alphabet was reformed in the 1940’s making an accurate translation of this pre-reform work even more difficult!
“The inscription is wrong, both incorrect and incomplete in this strike. … abbreviation … The emission of the first syllable (or after the first syllable) a double… slip of BAPOY instead of BAPBAPOY. However, the work of the portrait is both careful and fine.”
This translation has several lacunae (perhaps someday I shall master enough Bulgarian to fill these voids in), but the basic sentiment of Mushmov is represented, I am not sure if I agree regarding the level of artistry in the portraiture. Although the quality of imperial portraiture on Thracian provincial coins is one of the primary factors that led me to be interested in collecting this series, in my own observations, the portraits of Septimius Severus for coins issued under Statilius Barbarus are inferior to those of the subsequent Severan governors of Thracia. There appears to be more errors in the legends as well. These are not characteristics isolated to this one city, but rather are apparent in virtually all the cities in this province.
This coin is in my collection as an epigraphic witness, not as an example of the skill Thracian die engravers’ attempts at portraiture. Indeed, refer rather to the Antonine examples from Philippopolis or Pautalia. These coins compare favorably with those of Rome. The engraver's mistake on this reverse die: ellision by emission. The dies seem to be more skillfully and carefully executed during the tenures of the next two governors. Serdican coins seems to have more errors than other cities in this region.
Mushmov erroneously records HP in ligature for the rx die, he meant HΓ. I love the term Mushmov uses for ligature; ligatura , must be a loan word.
Image recycled from seller.
JPW
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The crusty collecting continues!
Pautalia Septimius Severus Caicina Largus (198-9AD) Eagle on globe
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-76406
For rx type eagle on globe cf. Ruzicka p. 95 #280-2/ obverse die = Ruzicka #3 p. 93; BMC p. 143 #16 ; Varbanov (E) II 4637 (depicted) All have different legend breaks than this die, none inscribed circularly, none eagle head right
Varbanov’s depicted specimen from:
Fritz Rudolf Künker GmbH & Co. KG Auction 97 (07.03.2005) lot 1592 17.8gr (different obv and rx)
attached from acoinsearch.info a most valuable resource!
My coin has Varbanov obv die Ka = Ruzicka #3. Varbanov does not record this obv die with this rx type.
N.B. Varbanov cropped the planchet shape from this auction image for his monograph
Shares obverse die with my unrecorded eagle on fulmen head right same governor
More challenging to collect them in this condition right?
JPW
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Here is the latest addition to my collection:
Pautalia Antoninus Pius Pompeius Vopiscus (160 AD?) Demeter on biga
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-78827
Came from Ukraine.
One specimen recorded in Ruzicka in the Sophia collection.
Ruzicka referred to the following coin from Anchialus recorded in AMNG II p.219 #411(attached) for rev type.
Varbanov rates it R8 (for what that's worth!) The coin depicted in Ruzicka and Varbanov appears to be the same.
It does seem to be a rare reverse type. An exciting new addition!
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Here is another interesting coin that arrived from Germany today.
Pautalia Septimius Severus Sicinnius Clarus (202 AD) Asklepios
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-79301
Nice obv, rough rev
Varbanov cites Mushmov (1912) 4153, but the coin depicted is an Asklepios from Tomis.
A common reverse type, I have two others already in my gallery. This is an obverse die match for this coin:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-58221
This specimen is another example of obverse die sharing for the two successive Thracian governors, Caecina Largus (link supra) and Sicinnus Clarus (my new one).
The reverse die is unrecorded.
JPW
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An exciting and rare addition to my collection:
Philippopolis Septimius Severus Statilius Barbarus Temple
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-80893
Some acquisition notes:
Varbanov records this as his obv legend G, but this legend lacks the terminal pi (Π) that is clear in his depicted specimen.
There appears to be a die break at 8’ -9’cf the following obv.
I think this is my first example of this obverse die.
Varbanov cites the O. Gavrailov collection. From browsing Varbanov's volumes, I would love to see that collection in its entirety!
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A nice example:
Anchialus Septimius Severus Statilius Barbarus Asklepios and Hygieia
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-81513
In AMNG II, Strack records 10 different reverse types for coins issued when St. Barbarus was governor. Varbanov does not add much, only a few die variants.
seller's image
JPW
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I've had my eye on this one for a while; finally took the plunge.
Philippopolis Septimius Severus St. Barbarus Dionysos on panther
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-82294
not a looker, but very rare
Mushmov cites one example in the National Museum at Sophia #120 with this obv die
seller's image
JPW
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New arrival from Germany:
Lucius Verus Pautalia Asklepios L. Pullaienus Gargilius Antiquus (161 AD)
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-84000
Ruzicka obverse die #5, most common.
Varbanov depicted specimen is Lanz Auction 102 (28.05.2001) lot 643
https://tinyurl.com/tew7hqy
The attached example is from the BMC collection in London 1927 10 16 6
My first Lucius Verus from Pautalia. In addition this is my first example of one of the co-emperors with this governor.
*Curtis Clay has brought to my attention the engraver's error of OYΠIAC instead of OYΛΠIAC, missed by Varbanov, Ruzicka and RPC online.
JPW
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I finally bought a hard copy of BMC Thrace for my numismatic library. It is a Forni reprint that came from England. I thought the manner in which it was shipped to me was pretty interesting. This slim little book came in a burlap sack zip-tied shut! I'm definitely keeping and reusing that bag; it's cool!
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new arrival from Germany:
Philippopolis Antoninus Pius Governor L. Pullaienus Gargilius Antiquus (161 AD) river-god Hebros
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-85828
There are many different dies of this type. I’m kind of lumping these attributions together for later consumption.
http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/7415/
Cf. Mushmov Les Monnaies Antiques de Philippopolis (1924) 39-44; cf. Varbanov (E) III 667-8; 672-78 ) ; cf. SNG Cop. 768; cf.BMC 5; cf. Mionnet Supp II 1438-44
Not the nicest example, but maybe some motivation for me to really study this type in the future. Different reverse die from my other two specimens. I'm waiting for something more exciting to arrive in the mail. I'll post it soon!
JPW
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Well I'm still waiting for that exciting coin, but I have added this coin to my collection in the meantime.
From sunny California:
Augusta Traiana Marcus Aurelius Q. Tullius Maximus (161-169 AD) Zeus enthroned
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-86491
recycled seller's image
some notes:
Schönert-Geiss obverse die #4, most common
RPC online Antonine temp #10329, Berlin museum cast of the Cahn specimen (1931 Antike Mϋnzen 742 p. 128); none in acsearch.com
Attached is the Berlin cast.
JPW
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I picked this beauty up at the post office the other day.
Hadrianopolis Commodus Governor Claudius Bellicus (176-80AD?) Farnese heracles
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-86605
My first example with this governor. There appears to be only one obverse die for Bellicus, who is known only from the coins of Hadrianopolis issued for Commodus. Cf. Stein p. 32 and Jurukova 134 Plate X 102-4
The legend on this coin is very faint in spots, particularly on the obverse, but in hand it is possible to make it all out.
Recently another unpublished coin issued by this governor at Hadrianopolis was sold. Attached below
cf. reply #30 supra and N.B. Curtis Clay's post https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=38043.0
With this specimen and the recently sold CNG Dionysos there are now 5 reverse dies known(Ares, Asklepios, Emperor eques, Dionysos and Farnese Heracles).
I am very excited to add this coin to my collection. It may be the pick-up of the year, but the year is not over yet...
JPW
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I couldn't resist this coin, even in this state:
Philippopolis Septimius Severus St. Barbarus River-god
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-87244
A maddening coin with many remnants of letters on reverse, but what is extant is either barely legible or illegible. I recognized the profile of this coin as being the very common obverse die issued at Philippopolis under Statilius Barbarus.
Harshly cleaned, with pitting on reverse. I bought it as part of a lot; the rest junk.
JPW
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Another rough river-god from Philippopolis.
Philippopolis Commodus Governor Caecilius Servilianus (perhaps 186 AD; Stein) river-god
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-87537
part of a rough three coin lot.
Only specimen in Mushmov recorded from HMC (National Museum in Sophia) #5242. Partial legend on that coin and this one with similar lacunae.
Not in RPC Antonine online or acsearch.
JPW
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These coins are falling from the sky!
Pautalia Caracalla Caecina Largus (198-9AD) Asklepios, Hygeia and Telesphoros
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-87648
Only my second Caracalla from Pautalia. An area I would certainly like to augment.
Some notes:
Ruzicka’s obverse die #13
Ruzicka only records one example at Sophia #8221
Varbanov records the obverse legend incorrectly; leaves out epsilon in Antwneinoc.
JPW
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Arrived today from Barcelona Spain:
Pautalia Caracalla Sinnicius Clarus (202AD) Satyr
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-87790
Satyr in the manner of Praxiteles. (cf. attached) Ruzicka obv die #6
I think the obverse paired with this reverse in Varbanov is incorrect. I have only seen that obverse die with unsigned reverse dies. cf. attached Rauch specimen. I think the rev depicted in Varbanov is the same image as the specimen depicted in Ruzicka. Ruzicka records the obverse legend as AVP not AV. as the Rauch specimen clearly illustrates. Varbanov rates this coin R8.
Charles Rhodes’ specimen attached for comparison.
This is the kind of high profile reverse types I rarely win. It is much nicer in hand than the seller's harsh lighting indicated. My scans are close to actual color.
JPW
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What?
I picked this Bulgarian stamp up on ebay that depicted a coin in my collecting focus. Price was very nominal; the whole lot was $1! A fun diversion, if nothing else, for that price.
My attribution of coin depicted:
Septimius Severus
T. Statilius Barbarus (196-98 AD)
Ob: AV K Λ CEΠ | CEVHPOC
Laureate draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev: HΓM CTA BAPBAPOV
Ex: CEPΔUN
Asklepios in tetrastyle temple, dot (or shield) in pediment
Ruzicka 36(rev depicted IX); Hr/J 12.14.46.1 (depicted); cf. Varbanov (E) III 1947; cf. Mushmov (1926) 38 (rev depicted on Tafel VII) ; cf. Mionnet 1661; cf. Beschreibung der antiken Mϋnzen p. 233 #3; BMC -; SNG Cop. –
The model for this stamp was probably the specimen in the National Collection at Sophia, # 6421. Both Ruzicka and Mushmov cite this specimen. (#36 and #38 respectfully) Three reverse dies of this type for Stat. Barbarus. Cf. Ruzicka 34-36. The reverse depicted on the stamp has the inverted omega U. One way to distinguish all three is by the omega in the ethnic. 34 Ω; 35 w; 36 U
There seems to be some confusion in the sources regarding the obverse dies for St. Barbarus at Serdica. Not a lot of examples, but 4 or 5 distinct dies are listed in Ruzicka. I could only find images of 2 different dies between my many sources. I need to investigate this problem further in the future.
JPW
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Nice! Do you know whether this is it or are there other stamps in this series?
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I'm not sure. I forgot to mention that all of these stamps depict coins from Serdica. That would lead one to believe that there could be a series for some of the other cities in Thrace like Pautalia or Philippopolis.
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New arrival from London GB:
Hadrianopolis Septimius Severus Sicinnius Clarus (202 AD) Asklepios
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-90746
The reverse appears to be a match with Jurukova 176.I think the obverse die may be different than the one Jurukova recorded. Maybe v113 instead of v112.
Jurukova records one example from Munich with this reverse die. p. 146-7; cast of rev depicted on Tafel xvii
Varbanov II (E) mislabels 3400 Artemis as Jurukova 176. My coin and wildwinds example maybe 3402. Varbanov refers to a Bulgarian source I do not have.
no examples in acsearch or Beschriebung der antiken Munzen (1878)
but there is a match in Wildwinds. cf. attached
seller's image
JPW
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You write "Asklepios". But all other depictions from Hadrianopolis show Asklepios in himation and in his typical position. What do you think of "Apollo Iatros"?
Jochen
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I agree that your new coin is from the same dies as the one in Wildwinds that you also illustrate, but
a. the rev. die seems to me slightly different from Jurukova's R176. On R176, the V of KΛAPOV is closer to the head of the standing figure, and the first A of the city name starts a little farther to the left with relation to that head. But I would want to compare plaster casts of the two coins to be absolutely sure.
b. It seems to me that Jurukova's V113 is the same as her V112. She unfortunately quite often makes the mistake of assigning two different die numbers to what is in fact one and the same die!
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You're right Curtis, my coin cannot be Jurukova 176 which is artemis not asklepios! If you look closely at the cast one may discern the right arm raised toward the back of the head. Sorry Varbanov, mea culpa! So my coin and the ww coin are a variant of 177, same rev type, different die.
As for the obverse die, you're probably right. All of the examples are so worn it is difficult to make a distinction. There was probably only a couple of different obv dies for Septimius Severus at this city.
I haven't had an opportunity to study the coinage of Hadrianopolis as much as I would like!
I was just following the attribution in the literature Jochen, but you may very well be right. The figure does appear nude and Asklepios usually has the himation. Do you think the line at ankles of mine and the ww coin is the hem and the legs are just prominently depicted in the drapery? Both specimens are very worn. cf. attached Commodus Hadrianopolis asklepios. Same pose less worn. If only the high parts remained would he appear nude?
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A couple of new additions:
1. Augusta Traiana Septimius Severus T. Statilius Barbarus (196-98 AD) City Gate
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-91465
One example, not depicted, in Schönert-Geiss Dimitrov in Plovdiv (Philippopolis).
Some nice color contrasts in the rough patina.
2. Anchialos Septimius Severus T. Statilius Barbarus (196-98 AD) City Gate
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-91466
461 Has three arches on top of the gate; 461a has the colonnade.
Most of the legend is missing from the Berlin specimen recorded in AMNG II. M. Strack notes that this gap probably contained the name of Barbarus since the obverse die was a match with other coins issued under this governor.
A nice way to start the year.
JPW
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A new acquisition:
Philippopolis Septimius Severus Statilius Barbarus City goddess
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-96778
seller's image
Ex: Pecunem Auction 3 lot 164; ex: Lanz Auction 155 (10.12.2012) lot 593 unsold
Notes:
Governor misattributed by Lanz as Servilianus.
I don’t think Varbanov uses Mionnet as a reference for his third volume. Mionnet cites Vaillant Numm grae.
Vaillant’s description: Mulier velata more patrio insistit rupibus; quibus d. insistit spicas & papaver
From the collection of D. Foucault. Vaillant thought the praenomen of Barbarus was Tiberius rather than Statilius.
JPW
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I've been off to a slow start this year, but I'm still plotting along with this very nice addition from Lanz in Germany.
Philippopolis Septimius Severus T. Statilius Barbarus (196-8 AD) river-god
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-98890
gray patina with a nice clear legend.
Cf. this beautiful double die match: Lanz Auction 117 lot 865. Depicted in Varbanov III (E)
Seller's image
There is some real satisfaction to slow, patient collecting.
JPW
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Arrived today from a private collector in Germany:
Pautalia Septimius Severus Sicinnius Clarus (202 AD) Artemis
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-99623
Cf. Ruzicka 769, 512 for rev type under Clarus but diff die; tau is visible on this specimen above exergue
Delta countermark in incuse triangle on obverse
Denominational countermark Δ= 4 assaria, cf. Howgego 781-788
Howego doesn't record a Δ iincuse triangle for any Thracian coins. I also checked D. Draganov "The Countermarks of Moesia Inferior and Thracia", Klio 1991 pp. 495-509.
Shared obv die for Clarus and Largus at Pautalia; Ruzicka obv 7
Ruzicka-; Varbanov(E) II –; BMC-; SNG Cop.-; Mionnet Supp II -; acsearch -
probably unpublished
recycled seller's image
JPW
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JPW,
Very nice collection!
Doug
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Thanks Doug!
Here's one from our host:
Pautalia Septimius Severus Caicina Largus (198-9AD) Tyche
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-100137
The price was right on this one and it is unrecorded, so I couldn't resist. (Even ugly ducklings deserve a home!)
Forum Coins image
JPW
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I've been concentrating on some other pursuits, but I always try to keep my eyes peeled for a deal.
Saw this coin at the right price.
Serdica Caracalla Caecina Largus (198-99AD) Hermes
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-105513
This reverse die is not listed in the older sources. There is an example depicted in Varbanov (E) III from the private collection of O. Gavrailov. The style of this obverse die is very reminiscent of Pautalia and Nikopolis ad Istrum.
JPW
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Collecting at a glacial pace...
NTL, I chanced upon this nice specimen.
Pautalia Caracalla Caecina Largus (198-9AD) Emperor and captive
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-110110
Ruzicka cites two examples: one in Munich, the other in Philippopolis. I don't think this coin has an ultimate lunate sigma in the ethnic, as Ruzicka records.
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A ghastly silhouette joins the fold from Hamburg Germany:
Pautalia Commodus Caecilius Servilianus (189-90AD) Hygieia
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-110585
An unrecorded reverse type. My first Pautalia coin for Commodus. Ruzicka only records two reverse types for this governor; Tyche and Hermes. Varbanov adds this type: apollo cf. for obverse die. There is some confusion in the labeling for Varbanov. 4533 (depicted)=the description 4530.sic Servilianus not Maternus. He seems to omit an iota in the transcription of the governor's name repeatedly as well.
CEPOYEIΛIANOY (4528, 4530)
My scan isn't quite doing justice, this coin is a little better in hand.
Obviously I'm speculating on the reverse legend as no better example is known to me.
acsearch and RPC Antonine also drew blanks.
JPW
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Another relapse...
Hadrianopolis Commodus Julius Castus (184/185 AD) Apollo
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-110630
Bought for a song.
Jurukova obverse die 75
I recycled the seller's image.
JPW
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I'm back!
Pautalia Caracalla Caecina Largus Hera & peacock
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-111069
unpublished in the major works
from Germany; much better in hand, and in my scans (used) than the seller's images. It's incredible how many unpublished coins from this region are still out there just waiting to be attributed. That statement probably rings true for many provincial issues.
John Wrenn
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A big chunky bronze came from Germany today. It was part of a 4 coin lot.
Philippopolis Antoninus Pius Governor L. Pullaienus Gargilius Antiquus (161 AD) Zeus seated
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-111248
different rev die from my other example. Letters are cut larger on this die. I cannot find full ethnic inscribed circularly in any references.
JPW
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Another whopper! Weighing in at a hefty 20.17g!
Augusta Traiana Marcus Aurelius Q. Tullius Maximus (161-169 AD)
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-111381
From Hamburg Germany.
Schönert-Geiss obv 3; rev 8. I believe this is the most common reverse type for signed coins issued during Marcus Aurelius' reign at Augusta Traiana. Different ob and rev dies from RPC online temp #10327.
I bet one could differentiate more than 5 rev dies for this type with out trying too hard. I'm going to save that task for another day; maybe in the winter!
JPW
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I've been a good run lately. Added another from Germany; part of a 2 coin lot, attributed as Traianopolis.
Philippopolis Septimius Severus T. Statilius Barbarus (196-8 AD) Hygieia
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-111634
This unpublished type emphatically has the T(itus) praenomen engraved in the reverse legend. cf. footnote 2 p. 43 in Stein's Romische Reichsbeamte der Provinz Thracia (1920).
Rx: HΓE T CTA BAPBAPOV ΦIΛIΠΠOΠOΛEI
Ex: TΩN
JPW
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I've been remiss on posting coins I've added to my collection over the last few months.
Here is one that arrived from Cyprus recently.
Pautalia Antoninus Pius Gargilius Antiquus City-goddess
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-120917
coins struck under this governor at Pautalia seem to be less common than their counterparts from Philippopolis.
JPW
Last night I forgot to check RPC Antonine online, which does have 3 examples of this coin listed (temp # 3479): one from Sophia (cf. Ruzicka); one from Ashmolean Collection (must be post BMC) and a more recent specimen from HD Rauch (auction 65 10/04/00 lot 298).
attached is the coin depicted online
Ruzicka 18 appears to be a different reverse die than the Ashmolean specimen and mine, which are matches. The ethnic is engraved in one line on the coin in the Sophia Collection.
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Largest coin of an eight coin lot from California that I purchased back in November 2014. The rest were junk, but I recognized this obv die as a coin of interest.
Commodus AE 25 Governor T. Suellius Marcianus (first governor during his reign ante 184 AD) Hygeiea and Asklepios
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121139
Diff obv die from BMC specimen attached from RPC online.
I played catch-up today and scanned a few. Hopefully I'll have the time to post the rest soon...
JPW
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1. A recent purchase:
Septimius Severus Hadrianopolis Sicinnius Clarus (202 AD)
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121182
An unpublished rx type for this governor in the major works.
2. Another coin purchased winter 2014/ spring 2015
Philippopolis Commodus Caecilius Maternus ( 187 Stein) Eagle
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121185
I had a tough time figuring out whether this coin was from Pautalia of Philippopolis as the ethnic is obscured, but I finally found an obv die match.
cf Obolos (Nomos)Feb 8 2015 lot 328
A few more to follow soon...
JPW
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From Las Vegas:
Philippopolis Commodus Caecilius Servilianus Nike on Biga
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121340
Magistrate’s name completely obliterated on this specimen.
Common obv die.
BMC 18 has a different legend break in ethnic on rx. (attached)
JPW
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Wonderful!
Jochen
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Wonderful!
Jochen
+ 1 +++
Q.
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I couldn't resist adding this interesting piece:
Anchialus Commodus Governor Caecilius Servilianus (perhaps 186 AD; Stein) City gate
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-127143
2 countermarks on obv: Howgego 183 on lower left- Helmed Athena ; and 534- ΔX- in lower right, both are in circular punches. Specimens with these two countermarks are recorded from Anchialus and Apollonia.
The ΔX probably is a denominational mark meaning 4 chalcoi.
Varbanov lists 5 arches in the gallery but the coin depicted has 6. Strack records some variants in AMNG. One reverse die has 6 arches (cf Varb 125) at Sophia. He records another with 8 arches and an additional tower at Bukarest.
* After further scrutiny I am pretty sure that my coin is a double die match for the coin depicted in Varbanov (with 6 arches in the gallery).
So AMNG 442 (1.4) Sophia
JPW
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Nice coin .
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Here is a nice chunky bronze I picked up a few weeks ago.
Philippopolis Commodus Caecilius Servilianus Zeus
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-127915
Notes:
The alpha on the obverse legend M {A}Y appears to be missing on this obv die.
RPC online has an example, not quite as clear, which is recorded as Λ. Maybe ΛA (ligate)?
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I've had this coin for a few months but failed to post due to the image. I think this is my only coin issued under this governor (for now).
Pautalia Septimius Severus Honeratus snake
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-127958
Notes:
Stein reports that Honeratus served briefly at Thrace as governor under Septimius Severus. Coins bearing this magistrate’s name appeared at Perinth, Philippopolis and Pautalia.
Mionnet incorrectly recorded the legend on several coins from Pautalia as T. NEPATI or ΛIΛ NEPATI. He records several: Asklepios, eagle, serpent between altars
Aelius or Caelius question seems to be resolved in this coin.
The specimen in Varbanov appears to be the exquisite coin attached. The citation is from CNG mail auction 50 (23 6 99) lot 236.
JPW
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Wow, that's a spectacular coin.
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A couple of recent additions:
1.Hadrianopolis Antoninus Pius C. Iulius Commodus Orfitianus Galley
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-130041
2. Augusta Traiana Caracalla Sicinnius Kybele
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-130040
JPW
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Added this coin to the collection this week:
Bizya Antoninus Pius Pompeius Vopiscus Dionysos enthroned left
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=0
I saw this same coin 9 years ago and couldn't solve the ethnic. I came across the same coin last week and figured it out in 1 minute...
JPW
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I recently won this coin at auction:
Pautalia Caracalla Caecina Largus Adventus
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-159113
same dies as pretty attached coin . Mionnet records EΠI instead of HΓ citing Com. Wiczay. Mus. Hederv. T. p. 9 No. 2399 later corrected by Sestini. On my coin you can see a faint second line in exergue AC for the final two letters of the ethnic.
cf. Curtis Clay's discussion of a similar coin issued at Serdica during Geta's reign.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=78619.0
This coin dates after the sestertius RIC IV 719 (196AD), between governors Statilius Barbarus and Sicinnius Clarus, so 198-202. This reverse type is only recorded for Caracalla at Pautalia. As far as I know this is the only issue and only die. An earlier copy of the sestertius?
JPW
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I bought this coin a few months ago. It is my first coin from this city in Thrace.
Plotinopolis Antoninus Pius male horseman right.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-160874
A very rare city, especially for the large coins bearing the governor's name. This type is one of the most common for Antoninus Pius at this city. At first I thought it was an Imperator Eques reverse type, but the sources seem to agree that this type refers to some local deity. RPC records one specimen in each of these major European collections: Paris, Vienna, Berlin, Cambridge. The Berlin coin has a different reverse die.
My coin is much lighter than all the other examples @ 12.04. The Paris specimen is the closest @ 16.94g. The coin I attached from Kunker is a hefty 25.31g. The Vienna coin is illustrated in RPC and appears to be a double die match. An interesting feature of these large denominations from Plotinopolis is that they seem to have a large unused space in the exergue.
JPW
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I won this interesting coin a few weeks ago at auction. It is from the collection of Jean-Pierre Righetti with his tag, inv no. 10124.
Hadrianopolis Antoninus Pius C. Iulius Commodus Orfitianus Tyche seated
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-161306
No other recorded examples of this reverse die. RPC IV 9297 cites four other examples of this reverse type with a different rx die. All other known specimens have ΛEITΩN in exergue. This coin has no inscription but one is able to distinctly discern water flowing in the exergue. The examples cited in RPC are from: Paris; Plovdiv; Sophia and Lischine. In Jurukova's monograph the Sophia coin is illustrated on Table II. I attached my coin and the rx of the Paris specimen for comparison.
JPW
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Here's my latest addition:
Philippopolis Commodus Caecilius Servilianus (186?) Nike in slow biga right with serpents
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-161781
Mushmov Les Monnaies Antiques de Philippopolis (1924) 161; cf. Varbanov (E) III 940; cf. BMC 18; Mionnet Supp. II -; SNG Cop. –; RPC IV.1 7515 (temp); Righetti 303
RPC records the Righetti specimen which has serpents in front of the biga and BMC 18 which does not have the serpents under the same number 7515. I think separate numbers would be better. There are clearly two distinct dies extant with different legend arrangements in addition to the serpents. Varbanov III (E) 940 is interesting in that it has the same rx die as Righetti 303 but it has a draped bust obv die instead of head. This could be a double match for Mushmov 161 as he was uncertain of the obv. on the coin in the Sophia collection.
It turns out that I have an exact match in my gallery already. I just didn't discern the two serpents until I saw this clearer example, My new coin is much nicer in hand than the seller's image. The patina is a bright glossy green.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121340
I attached my new coin, a double die match CNG coin, BMC 18 rev, my old coin
JPW
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I picked up another Pautalia city-goddess issued during the reign of Antoninus Pius by Pompeius Vopiscus recently.
Pautalia Antoninus Pius Pompeius Vopiscus City-goddess AE32 20.07g
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-162048
The reverse die on this coin is slightly different from the BMC #2 specimen. There is a slightly different legend break near the cornucopiae. Ruzicka had a good handle on this. His #9 = BMC #2; #10 = Berlin and Paris specimens. Mionnet must have recorded the one of the Paris coins and inaccurately referred to the legends. Mionnet does correctly assign the rarity of this reverse type as being more common than other coins issued under this magistrate at Pautalia. RPC records 7 specimens between the 2 variants (3 in the Paris collection). Most other reverse types have 2 or less specimens listed. RPC records both reverse die variants as RPC IV 8749. Unlike the coin I posted last time where the serpent variant was treated under the same listing, I think this is ok. I would like to see a refinement of the listings in RPC for the Antonines, but as they are temporary numbers so I guess I can live with it for now.
There is a very interesting obv. die I found on acsearch with this rx die which appears to be unrecorded. The Kunker coin from auction 193 lot 738 (26.09.2011) has an aegis on the bust with rx die Ruzicka #10.
I have some other coins which I'll try to post soon...
Attachments in order: Mine, BMC 2 rx (look at those scratches ouch!), Kunker with aegis
JPW
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I've added a couple of worn coins to my gallery. Both offer interesting comparisons with coins in my gallery already.
#1 Hadrianopolis Antoninus Pius C. Iulius Commodus Orfitianus Tyche seated
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-166146
This is an example of Jurukova's #12 = Varbanov II(E) 3176 =RPC Antonine temp # 9297. Four examples: Paris, Lischne, Sophia and Plovdiv. Mionnet records two examples; one from Vol. I with an incomplete reverse legend T. ΠONT...for magistrate p. 385 #142, the second with complete legend M. ΠONT. CABEINOY citing Vaillant's num. graeca. The first coin must be the Paris coin. A. Stein notes that this is an incorrect reading but does reference Mionnet Supp. II on p.21 of Romische Reichsbeamte der Provinz Thracia (1920). I think the second coin was in Vaillant's personal collection, but I need to double check. His coin could have very well ended up in the Royal collection. I'm skeptical a coin with this legend from this city exists, I think only coins from Philippopolis bear the name M. Pontius Sabinus.
My other example of this reverse, formerly in the Righetti collection, has same emperor and magistate but a different, unpublished rx die.
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#2 Anchialos Commodus Hades Iulius Castus
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-166147
This coin was listed as having a Zeus reverse, but I think if you look closely one is able to discern the three heads of Cerberus. I may be attune to this because I have another unpublished reverse of this type in my collection. different obverse and reverse dies, same emperor and magistrate.