FORVM`s Classical Numismatics Discussion Board
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Hi all
Because it takes up so much time to scroll down the enormous (and still growing) list of coins of e.g. Constantine, on wildwinds when you are checking the ID of a coin, I have added a list of clickable mint names along the top.
However, I have my Windows / screen resolution set to a relatively low resolution (it's better for my eyes) so although the size of the mint names are fine for me, it occurred to me that they may be too small for most people. So could I ask some of you to have a look at the page and tell me whether the size of the mint cities lines are too small ? Ok? Please "do not adjust your set", look at the page with your normal settings. I will check back here tomorrow and if the majority of you want the lines a tad larger, I will alter the html accordingly.
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/constantine/i.html
Is it useful ?
I may add the function to the pages of other emperors
Thanks !
Dane
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I think it is very useful, and that the size of the mint city line is fine. George S.
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I have a 24 inch monitor set to a resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixels, which makes for small print. I have no trouble at all reading this-Jim A
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I will make use of the feature for sure...at 1440x900 it looks fine to me as well.
Chris
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Simple and useful. It looks fine to me.
Bill
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Even with presbyopia, and reading glasses to use in reading and for the computer (small font in File Info, for example, and parts of Dreamweaver are difficult), I find your font, on my 21" monitor perfectly legible. So, thank you. And this is so even though I am scheduled for a check up at the optometrist (foot notes!).
Also, I have a reading glass that I can use occasionally.
Pat L.
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A nice feature. Thanks!
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Hi Dane;
The size is fine for my eyes. Is there any way you could keep the list of mints active after you choose the thumb nail option?
Thanks,
Ray
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LATER: Ray wrote to me that he meant it'd be good to have the same thing on the thumbnail page. DONE !
By the way I added a new page for the usurper Regalianus today, so for all you people who have loads of these ;D, please feel free to send images. I already have the nice image of a sold coin from the Forvm shop plus one from Vienna and one from the National Bank of Austria and one from a private collector which he sent me, which led me to make the page.
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Real improvement; would be an idea too for the provincial coins.
Frans
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This is more of a quick fix until we can afford the new real database software. Unfortunately the software required is horribly expensive and advertising "orders" from coin shops the payment for which would go to paying for it, is very slow in forthcoming.
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All look great. Thank you.
Laney
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i have no trouble at all with the font size, but i do have a question. is there any way to disambiguate Greek and Roman Provincial coins?
as a collector of Greek coins almost exclusively it can be quite frustrating to look up a source for Greek coins only to find endless lists of what are really Roman. separation would make the search a lot easier.
i would appreciate this greatly, and i'm sure i am not the only one.
thanks!
~ Peter
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*bump*
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I've made the thread sticky, so it should stay at the top.
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I'm glad to hear that Wildwinds will be converted into a real database. I hope it will have a good search function,
as it is it's so much wasted potential since you have to have a pretty good idea already what coin you have.
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@Enodia
I don't understand what you mean. The Greeks and Roman provincials ARE separated.
On the Greek city pages, the Greeks, or autonomous are at the top and these are followed, where applicable by the Roman emperors usually in chronological order.
I cannot think of any page in which they are all mixed up. Could you give me an example ?
One thing which Dave did, which I am changing bit by bit is - on the pages of Thracian and Moesian cities, he put the Moushmov numbers in order of size, so you'd get e.g. a 19mm Moushmov 1234 coming before a 21mm Moushmov 1200. I am changing this bit by bit putting these Mousmov numbers in numerical order, followed by Varbanov numbers (V comes after M) though these may be a mix of old and new Varbanov numbers.
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i'm sorry, i should have been clearer. i guess i meant separate pages, which i realize may present a limitation for the site.
but thank you for replying.
~ Peter
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@enodia.
The problem is that some people, especially new members to the numismatic community don't always know what they have. Let us say a person has a coin with the name ODECC.. visible. He or she has no idea what the coin is, except that it is probably from Odessos. Now, if the coins were separated onto two different pages - pure Greek and Roman Provincial, he would have to troll through 2 pages instead of just one.
Also, what I call "pure Greek" are always at the top of the Greek pages with the emperors' coins further down.
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Hi all
Over the past few days wildwinds has been hit by several "DOS Attacks" ("denial of service attacks") which occurs when an evil-minded person for reasons known only to his tiny mind uses a program or script to route himself via several IPs from all over the world to access the website several thousand times per second, thus overloading the server and causing it to shut down.
This happened on Thursday, Friday, last night from about 20:15 hrs until midnight and again today. It has happened before, always on a weekend when it is difficult to contact the server technicians.
So it seems our wildwinds hater is still at work - he still continued to send mailbombs to Dave's old address right up to November when the email address at the old server was finally switched off.
The host is currently moving the website to a different, hopefully more secure server on its system (web address will stay the same) but with nearly half a million files, it will take a couple of hours.
Please be patient.
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This is more of a quick fix until we can afford the new real database software. Unfortunately the software required is horribly expensive and advertising "orders" from coin shops the payment for which would go to paying for it, is very slow in forthcoming.
Helvetica:
You have done an amazing job with the RIC lists and with Wildwinds! As a newbie to the hobby, I am extremely grateful to have access to these resources, and I suspect countless others are also grateful. How much money are you trying to raise for the database software? If you could provide a paypal account name, I would be glad to kick off a virtual fundraiser to improve this great resource!
Any other hobbyists willing to help out?
Cliff
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Hi Cliff
That is very kind. Because the information on wildwinds needs to be cross-referenced in so many ways and along so many paths, the special database software is going to be four figures :( Unfortunately a simple MySQL won't do it. Think of, say, a provincial coin of Gallienus. It needs to be under Gallienus, RIC, Sear Imperial Coins, the city coin page and all of these on two pages each (list page and thumbnail page). And because of all the different ways in which the current html coding is written (New coins are getting standardized coding - what would I do without NoteTab Pro ?) it will be a big job sorting it all out. There are over 300,000 files on the server!
I opened a special paypal account, separate from my private paypal account and the address is: wildwinds.contributions@gmail.com
Best wishes and Merry Christmas
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I'd also like to thank you, Dane, Wildwinds must have been a real labor of love for Dave Suber and It's admirable that your keeping his work alive. I think a donation site would help a lot. One idea is to get a Wildwinds Foundation registered into the Ebay list of charities where sellers can donate a portion of their sale price. I know I'd certainly be willing to give a portion of my profits to keep a site going that is invaluable to our hobby (although that seems to small a word).
Thanks Again,
David S4
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I also would like to thank You for your invaluable resource. I have found your site to be very useful, and look forward to any improvements you will be making in the future. Wildwinds is my favorite site for identifying Roman coins and has become a constant source of great information. Good luck with your future endeavors.- Ryan C.
P.S. I would also like to comment on one error I found while researching Volusian. In the entry for RIC 184 of Volusian the image used is actually a coin of Victorinus, so if anyone has contact with wildwinds they may want to let them know about this.
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Just wanted to let you all know that the DVD is now ready with a super search engine (it took so long to find one which a) works and b) works on a DVD.
By resaving some of the very large, byte-stealing images (some 500 pixel wide images were over 300 kb in size!) at a slightly lower resolution I managed to save about 100 Mb (!) so to fill up the DVD I have added the BMC Greek volumes which are in the public domain; the Anson Typefinder files and The Weber Collection.
It has three versions of the start page: in English, French and German.
The price is still the same as it was back in the early 2000s: $39.95 and if you want to order one, the Paypal address is
wildwinds.contributions@gmail.com
Make sure your postal address stored with Paypal is correct.
(@Ryan: darn it ! I didn't see your message about the Volusian error before burning the DVD master).
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The DVD -- wow! Gotta get that!
The Roman Imperial stuff, I can usually attribute pretty well with the online resources and occasionally text references...
But for Greek that's a monumental reference! $40 vs $3800 if I understand correctly (DVD vs book).
Now, if you do that for Byzantine coins, I might actually cry tears of joy (though wilwinds + forum is a pretty solid combo for most -- most -- of the Byzantine ones in my collection.
It's a totally different world for collectors than it was even 10 years ago, largely becaue of the research tools using new media
To those who produce these research resources at great personal cost in time and energy (maybe financial too?): THANK YOU!
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Hi Curtis
For all Byzantine bronzes, you can download my RIC lists in Excel format - the Byzants are listed in three different excel lists, largem.xls for the large M type reverses, large-others for all the other large letter type reverses (large K, large E, large X, XX, etc) and byzants.xls for all the other types including the anonymous bronzes with legends in x lines, cross reverses, general coins etc.
There are currently about 50 different lists for Roman bronzes, some under reverse types, some emperor coin lists (Gallienus, Aurelian, Probus, Tacitus etc), one for the Nicaea (and Antioch Pisidia) "three standards" types, one for the Viminacium and Dacia types (standing between lion and bull etc.), the list of Gordian III coins, and loads of others.
All ready for free download! There is also a short pdf on how to use the xls lists effectively and quickly, so you can whizz through your coins literally in seconds.
They can be downloaded either here on the forvm under "Helvetica's RIC lists" or on my other website http://www.catbikes.ch/coinstuff/coinstuff.htm
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Spot the difference.....
Notice anything new about this page ?
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/thrace/philippopolis/i.html
I think it is an improvement and will save me time because until now, each time I needed to add a coin to the top (alphabetically acc. to reference) of an emperors list, I had to copy delete and paste the link to the emperor's website as well. This way I can just add the coins.
I will be doing this to other pages which have a large number of Provincial coins, e.g. Serdica, Pautalia, etc.
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For cold autumn and winter nights when you've helped ID all the coins in this forum section ;D, perhaps you would like to have a go at the coins I have just uploaded to
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/mystery/mystery.html
They are mostly Greeks and Provincials, though there is a mysterious Domitian imperial amongst them too.
I would be grateful for any help with any of these.
There are more in an old folder but I will add these at a later date.
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I was only able to take a very quick look, but 8207 is from Zeugma. Ant Pius is correct.
Tom
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Hey Dane,
I took a quick look as well.
4452 - is most likely Carrhae, Mesopotamia - probably caracalla?
6572 - Rhesaena, Mesopotamia - these seem to usually be attributed to Caracalla - Legends are LEG (left of Vexillum) III (right), Retrograde S (left lower), C (right). This one would be Lindgren I 2608 (bust supported by eagle) The obverse legend is obscured on his specimen unfortunately. Lindgren 2608 is a different bust type, but does have OKPATW in the obverse legend per Lindgren.
5669 - is a pseudoautonomous issue of Pergamum, Mysia OBV- QEON CYNKLHTON Draped bust of Senate right
REV - QEAN PWMHN Bust of Roma right, no tresses, crescent before
This particular variant is not listed in RPC I. I have a similar specimen that I have attributed as RPC ! 2375V (lituus before instead of crescent)
1074 - Appears to be Volusian
Kurt
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The odd Domitian 8224 is Agrippa II copying Rome, SALVTI - EPI BA AGR(I) - AVGVST S C,
RPC 2266 with obv. COS X and rev. ET - KE, year 25 = 84/5 AD
RPC 2270 with obv. COS XII, rev. ET - KS, year 26 = 85/6 AD.
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Many many thanks for all these !! Absolutely brilliant.
(I would still like to find that blasted scorpion/lyre coin - it is keeping me awake at night.. )
Later: I have deleted the ones mentioned above which now have definite IDs. I think 1074 is Lindgren III 764A (veiled head of Demeter right) as the reverse legend appears to begin AI :Greek_Gamma: :Greek_epsilon:AI :Greek_Omega:N
So that is another which will be deleted and added to wildwinds.
Thanks in advance for any more tips !
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Hey Dane,
Just to keep you frustrated on the scorpion, could it be an issue from Cyprus? I was looking for another coin in RPC and came across RPC I 3916. It has a capricorn on the obverse and a scorpion on the reverse. It is loosely attributed to the time of Augustus. Probably doesn't help, but maybe another area to search.
Kurt
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Hi Kurt
Yes, I already checked Cyprus. I think the Scorpion on the RPC represents Scorpio - the birthsign of Livia perhaps - seeing as Augustus's own birth sign (Capricorn) is on the obverse.
I still have a feeling it is from an island somewhere. (I can see a rocky, slightly hilly landscape with the sea in the background in my mind's eye when I look at the image) - I need to see if I can find some obscure works covering Cyprus.
Dane
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Dane,
Here is your coin labeled AE20_Bull - Arados, Phoenicia
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=92264
I don't have BMC Phoenicia, but the correct citation for Lindgren is Lindgren I 2234
Kurt
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Thanks so much Kurt, I really appreciate you spending your time on these. I found it in BMC Phoenicia, it's on page 41, at the top, so BMC 330. It'll probably be in Rouvier too - I didn't think of Arados, I was trying to think of a city with the letters PO :Greek_Delta: in it ::)
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Hey Dane,
This coin from Termessos Minor looks close to # 8993
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=162629
not an exact match, but pretty close.
Kurt
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It probably IS a lyre from Termessos, I can see the MESSE..
I need to check some books.
Thanks Kurt.
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Latest RIC Lists
For those of you who are not subscribers of my RIC Lists newsletters, and who may not have noticed the latest RIC lists, here are the lists which have been uploaded since January 2012:
- Stag reverses: Greek and Provincial coins, silver and bronzes which have ONLY a stag on the reverse. This list began primarily as a compilation of the Ephesus bee/stag types then more city coins were added. Note that there are no diana with stag types, no imperial types of e.g. Gallienus or the Philips.
- Valerian II and Saloninus antoniniani
- Siliquae.xls includes siliquae, miliarense etc. from RIC VIII to RIC X.
Next up will be a list of all the RIC coinage of Caracalla (AE, AR and AV). If anyone cares to test it before its uploaded, please send me an email (to the address in my Forvm profile) and using the subject "Caracalla xls".
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Hi, i would like to add to Wildwinds coin Constans of unlisted mintmark e(epsilon) sis star?
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Mirek,
Helvetica has a handy upload tool for Wildwinds but you will have to email her to ask for the link and login information.
Regards,
mz
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Mark is right, we do have a tool to upload coins to a "holding dock" - I then download them about once a month, write the information, prepare the images etc.
However, I do not send the access information to people who use
- hotmail
- aol
- yahoo
email addresses, because the address databases of these providers are regularly hacked and the emails scanned by the hackers for words such as "access", "password" etc. (In the past year I have received at least 120 spam mails sent from addresses of coin friends and Forum members and they know nothing about it until it is too late).
The upload tool is password protected but there is the danger that a hacker who has found the password in that way can use the access to upload his filth with Blackhat or other spamming methods.
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Mark is right, we do have a tool to upload coins to a "holding dock" - I then download them about once a month, write the information, prepare the images etc.
However, I do not send the access information to people who use
- hotmail
- aol
- yahoo
....... The upload tool is password protected but there is the danger that a hacker who has found the password in that way can use the access to upload his filth with Blackhat or other spamming methods.
Just a suggestion, but would it be easier and more secure if people wishing to add a coin to the Wildwinds database were to post the coin in their Forvm Personal Gallery with all the attribution details, then alert you via PM after which you could copy it over to the Wildwinds database?
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ok,I do not know English ... could someone put this coin?Lloyd T is right
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RIC8 siscia 78 NOT LISTED E (EPSILON)15-17mm.1,2g.
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The problem with sending gallery links used to be that for some reason, the link automatically generated and shown as URL:.... in the information field beneath gallery images, was incorrect. People used to send me the URL, saying it was e.g. a coin of Tacitus, but when I clicked it, it was something completely different. That problem seems to have been fixed.
But the "system" in use at the moment seems to work, i.e. the usual suspects ;D already have the password and access information, other people send them by email.
I am just a bit paranoic about those hotmail, aol and yahoo addresses and those of you who know what havoc hackers have caused wildwinds in the past will surely understand my paranoia.
This coin of Mirek's is - as he writes a RIC 78 var.
I will add it to my xls file, and also to wildwinds.
Marek: I cannot add it immediately. I have just cleared the backlog and need to do some other work before adding the new "waiting for upload" coins.
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The problem with sending gallery links used to be that for some reason, the link automatically generated and shown as URL:.... in the information field beneath gallery images, was incorrect. People used to send me the URL, saying it was e.g. a coin of Tacitus, but when I clicked it, it was something completely different. That problem seems to have been fixed.
i think many people used to c&p the link from their browser, as they would in most cases.
however the only link which will work properly everytime is the one from the coins description. after many discussions here about this i think more people understand that now, and perhaps that is 'the fix'.
i have many coins types which are not represented on Wildwinds. however i have an Aol account.
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ok, thank you and wish you a Merry Christmas, greet Mirek.
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EDIT -- Oh, after re-reading, I see that there must be a big backlog. Maybe better to try to make personal contact and wait to see if I can help or find out when things slow down...
What about gmail accounts?
I have an example of a Lucius Verus AE18 from Augusta Traiana, reverse showing snake and tripod, not isn't listed on wildwinds. There is one specimen in the Staatliche Museen, Berlin, cataloged in Edith Schönert-Geiss (Griechisches Münzwerk: die Münzprägung von Augusta Traiana und Traianopolis) as Augusta Traiana type 103 (Varbanov cites that Schönert-Geiss, lists it as type 903). There is an image of a cast of the Berlin specimen on the Ashmolean Museum/RPC-Online Project. Besides that, I don't know of any other source or website that presents an image or cites the coin at all (except for a CNG Auction in which another specimen was sold as part of a group lot, but was not pictured clear).
If possible I would like to submit it for inclusion. Should I try to send a message?
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Hi Dane,
The WW Vespasian page has a placeholder for RIC 290: http://wildwinds.com/coins/ric/vespasian/RIC_0290.jpg
In my gallery, I have an example that you are welcome to add to wildwinds: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-93559
A better version of the picture is also attached.
Thanks for all you do at wildwinds!
Regards,
Sosius
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Beautiful, many thanks. I'll prepare this for wildwinds.
I usually place all "prepared" coins in a large folder on my second external harddisk with subfolders A to Z for imperial/emperor coins, plus folders for "Greek cities", "British Hammered", Byzants" etc. Then about once a month I start at A and go through them until they are all uploaded. So with this being V for Vespasian, it may be a while to get it online.
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No worries. Thanks so much for maintaining WW. It is a great benefit to collectors and researchers!
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Although we have communicated through a diffrent medium in the past,
I just wanted to take the opportunity to also thank you publicly for your help that you have provided.
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I still need to contact you after I finish cropping my Lucius Verus Augusta Traiana Tripod AE21 (I'm learning that skill now for that purpose) to show you, Dane, but I want to enthusiastically second (third?) the "Thank You's!" I've been relying heavily on wildwinds for routine attributions at least once or twice a week for almost 10 years now. I've shared the site with many new ancient collectors who have also become instant wildwinds addicts. My learning curve with Roman coins would have certainly been much flatter without the tremendous resources you've provided!
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No rush with your tripod coin, Curtis. I have about 100 coins to ID for a store... No doubt
many of them will also be added to the "all these coins are waiting for upload" folders !
Update 19th April: All the prepared coins in the folders are now online. But I just
downloaded another 30-something coins from the upload folder on the server so these
all need to be checked and added to the "waiting for upload" A to Z folders.
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2nd July 2014
Unfortunately part of the wildwinds dedicated server in the USA went down today and took with it not only wildwinds but also the server's backup AND the old 2009 temporary area which was under a slightly different name.
It is very likely that I will have to reupload the entire website, which includes about 500,000 files, so please be patient over the next couple of days, as I can only start uploading when the new harddisk
or whatever it is they need to install in the server, is in place. I'll be uploading day and night.
Also if you need to contact me, please use my gmail address, not my wildwinds address, as of course
all the emails in the inboxes on the server have also been wiped squeaky clean.
Dane
UPDATE 3. July 15:30 Swiss time
The new upload has begun, but it will take at least 3 days and then the DNS thingy has
to propograte again. (Happy are they who have bought the DVD - a new version of the
DVD was made at the end of May).
5th July, 20:00
Upload of /ric/ is nearly finished - then come greece/sear/sear5/Celtics/imp/rsc/SE/sg/Moushmov.
RIC is taking absolutely ages, but currently 95% of RIC is done.
The server is a bit slow because Damir is uploading Timeline Originals stuff as well, which is on the same server. I am uploading 24 hours non stop. So please all be patient.
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All the files are now in place as far as I can see.
The only thing which isn't working yet is the upload-to-dock tool, perhaps because
of a new php version. We are looking into it and trying to fix it but I'm not a php
programmer, although theoretically the old files should still work but they don't, i.e.
the password page works, the form page works but the image and txt don't upload.
Thankyou everyone, for your patience. If you spot an error or something, could you
let me know ?
Dane
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CORINTHIAN STATERS MOVING TO WILDWINDS
John Hayes, who has put so much work, effort and dedication into his wonderful
corinthianstaters.com website, is giving up the hobby and is moving to England
to be near his family. His coin collection has been consigned to a well-known
auction house.
John has kindly offered his website to wildwinds and it is now in place, though
not yet linked in the Greek regions list. This will be done as soon as I have a moment
(I am still trying to fic the problem with the wildwinds' upload-to-holding-dock tool).
The new address of Corinthian Staters is
www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/corinthstaters/i.html
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Hello,
I am having trouble getting to any of the wildwinds pages. Is the site screwed-up again? Is it still possible to buy the CD?
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Firstly, yes the DVD is still available. You can either follow the link on wildwinds, or buy it from my Helvetica's shop: http://www.catbikes.ch/shop/viewcategory.php?groupid=2
For Wildwinds:
You need to
1) Clear your cache and history in your internet browser of all references to wildwinds.
2) Restart a wildwinds page and click your "Refresh Page" icon. Some people need to do this twice.
The problem is that modern browsers are set to the default of "fetch pages from the cache". Now, if
the pages in the cache store the old DNS then of course they will not be valid any more. So you need to clear your browser(s) of ALL references to wildwinds and Moushmov pages then go and get the new ones i.e. the ones which use the new DNS (which you can't see.)
In future you may wish to set your browser to always fetch the latest version of website pages instead of it getting outdated pages from the cache which can be up to one year old.
I have just tested wildwinds using Opera, Firefox, Chrome, Safari and IE and there is no problem.
Everyone: Please note also that some areas which used old cgi scripts have been rewritten or deleted. i.e. for the "Partial Inscription Search" (which was using a very outdated list from 2006 anyway), you can now use the normal search page (which has "search this site" fields by Google, Bing and Freefind, which work very well on partial legends).
The Upload-to-Dock section has been replaced and is now working again for people with the password to upload their coins.
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Well if you happen to know how to use an indexing Shell script which Dave wrote back in 1982 and still have access to the Basic program which ran it, and also have experience with cgi scripts, you are very welcome to make an up-to-date version of the database and I will upload it and hope that the new server can cope with it, because it certainly couldn't when I re-uploaded everything - in fact none of the old cgi scripts worked, despite correcting them and spending days (with the assistance of two cgi programmers) fiddling about with them.
However - having said that, that database would be out of date again within a week because I am constantly adding new coins (7 coins added tonight, for example, 8 yesterday with about 100 more coins waiting for upload in the dock).
I think the Chrome "search this site" function is great.
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where can i find an updated copy of your tacitus spreadsheet?
It has been awhile?
Thanks
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I haven't uploaded the latest version for a while - it will include the one you sent me last week.
Please be patient, I have so much to do at the moment. You can always find the latest versions (when I have uploaded them) on the catbikes.ch website, as my ftp sometimes has difficulties when I try to upload them to the forum server. I think it's just a setting in my ftp client, SSL security or something.
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I definitely find this tricky. I have been finding that on longer listings it becomes difficult to narrow it down. What I have been doing is ctrl+f and from there you can search a particular detail of your coin. Alot of times it narrows it down quite a bit. Sometimes though if the detail is common, there are tons!
Hi all
Because it takes up so much time to scroll down the enormous (and still growing) list of coins of e.g. Constantine, on wildwinds when you are checking the ID of a coin, I have added a list of clickable mint names along the top.
However, I have my Windows / screen resolution set to a relatively low resolution (it's better for my eyes) so although the size of the mint names are fine for me, it occurred to me that they may be too small for most people. So could I ask some of you to have a look at the page and tell me whether the size of the mint cities lines are too small ? Ok? Please "do not adjust your set", look at the page with your normal settings. I will check back here tomorrow and if the majority of you want the lines a tad larger, I will alter the html accordingly.
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/constantine/i.html
Is it useful ?
I may add the function to the pages of other emperors
Thanks !
Dane
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For most common later Roman bronzes, you might find it more useful to first download the appropriate XLS list from my website www.catbikes.ch/coinstuff/coins-ric.htm and then,
when you have narrowed down the possibilities on there, then check whether there is an
example on wildwinds. Sometimes there is a column called "RIC no. on wildwinds" in the xls list
If you have never used my lists before, (you need an old or new version of Excel OR the free OpenOffice Calc program), there is a short "How to Use These Lists" pdf on the page mentioned
above - practise using that and you'll be whizzing through your coins in no time.
Note that additional lists (Caracalla, Sev. Alex etc) are on a password-protected page - requests
for access details by email only but the details are not sent to aol, yahoo, btonline or hotmail
addresses because these mail servers are so often hacked, often without the account holders
noticing it, and the emails scanned by the hackers for passwords etc. Change your pw as often
as you like - it's the servers which are hacked, not individual accounts, that's how they can
get so much information.
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On 1st March 2016, we hit the 72,000 coin mark on wildwinds !
When I took over wildwinds in May 2009, there were 54, 929 coins
including about 2,500 really grotty coins which I have since deleted or
replaced. So the actual number of additions is probably around 20,000
coins since May 2009.
As an example of how Wildwinds has grown:
In May 2009 there were less than 6 coins on the Thyateira, Lydia page - there
are now 301.
Over 50 Greek city pages have been added which were not previously represented
and the number of coin images contributed by you has helped a lot, so thankyou
to everyone.
There are still a lot of grotty coins under the old /sear/ numbers. I am working
through these as time permits and deleting all the old /sear/ entries in that section
as they have been superceded by the new volumes anyway. But as those numbers
(currently 647 coins in the old Sear directory) decrease, others will increase.
And I nearly forgot to add that all these coins are added by hand, the text and
entried written by hand in HTML and the images resized by hand. So I don't use one of
the "vacuum" programs to add coins to an SQL database (I wish...)
Well, that's my own trumpet blown ;D
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I can certainly see the improvement. Thanks Dane.
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I think I can imagine the work you have done. Thanks so much. And I think the whole numismatics community will thank you too!
Jochen
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I use this website many time, he is really good, i like when i search an RIC for a coin.
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Dane - Your Estoit number.... is that from her Monaies series?
Are you going to transition to MER-RIC number?
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Some Estiot numbers are given by the sellers so I just use them, others are from
a book I have somewhere but don't ask me to look for it. Some are from some of
her articles.
I'm not sure what the MER-RIC is... ??? But in any case, to transit thousands and
thousands of coins to a new version and new numbers - including changing all the
html pages AND all the references AND all the .jpg and .txt names would not only
be too much work but would cause thousands and thousands of error messages
from google and other bots because the .txt, jpg etc. files that they have indexed
would no longer exist AND would generate further thousands and thousands of 404
error pages. I prefer not to have to deal with dire warnings from
google in my inbox.
What I HAVE done in the past few days is to run through the Trajan vars and
add the numbers from Bernhard Woytek's work and other references. I also made
myself a very simple xls of the vars he lists, for future reference (just basic RIC
number - bust type of the var - Woytek no. and, where available, the Utrecht number).
The books were on loan from the University so I had a limited time to make a list.
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Dane - Sorry, I was referencing her website
http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/home
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I LOVE wildwinds. Awesome job on the cite. Like the addition of the mints. Looks good to me. Thanks for all your help.
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Separating coins by mints, especially for Constantine and his era is great idea and more than helpful. But must say that I'm using Wildwinds for years now and never had any major problems browsing it.
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I will add this coin, Aleksandar but in future could you look at my profile, take my email address
and send your coin images to that address instead of here ?
Thankyou !
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Two things, friends.
I did an incredibly silly thing a week ago - instead of saving the updated Probus file to the
Probus folder on the server, I uploaded it to the \ric\ folder by mistake, so some people
were seeing the Probus page when they went to the wildwinds RIC list startpage (the one
with the dropdown lists of emperors). I noticed it the next day and corrected it but if you
were a victim of my foolishness and you are still seeing the Probus page, it is because
your browser is still fetching the page from your browser's cache. So you need to
either manually delete the www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/i.html (it did not affect ...index.html)
from your cache or try the F5 key a couple of times, or CTRL F5 or Shift F5, depending on
your browser. (It used to be possible to set browsers to "always fetch the newest
version of websites" but it looks as though Firefox, Chrome and IE have removed that
option which is pretty damn stupid in my opinion).
Secondly, I am in the midst of modifying hundreds of thousands of html files for use with
the new version of the DVD and because some parts of the html coding - which may look
identical when viewed as text - actually have small differences (e.g. an extra space, <td>
instead of <th> etc) my search and replace programs had a hard time of it. So I decided to
separate the 170 lines of the top part of the pages (the part with the wildwinds logo, banner
ads and the dropdown menus beneath them) into a file of its own and then use a call-up line
to add it to the pages.
Now, because those 170 lines are a mixture of plain html and scripts, it is difficult to get the
size exactly right. On my PCs screen (my display settings are set at a slightly lower resolution
than most people have) the top part is a little bit narrower than the coin lists. It should be fine
for most people, but if you, for example, see only a small part of that top part, could you let
me know ? At the moment ONLY the Byzantine emperor lists have the "call-up line" system
because it needs a lot of work to do all the tens of thousands of html pages of all the sections,
and I really need to get the new DVD done.
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Blessing upon you for all that work on our behalf.
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Thankyou - sometimes I feel I need all the blessings I can get ;D
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Trust me, you give 'amateur' collectors such as me a reason to live when we get a batch of unidentified coins in (now if AE4's could magically get larger for my old eyes...).
Best,
Larry
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Excellent , I is indeed very useful thanks alot, +++
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Just a quick bit of information about collectors of English coins.
I got fed up of wildwinds jumping to and fro between an entry on e.g. the Henry VIII page and the appropriate entry in the /SE directory that I spent long hours during the past week moving all the /SE entries to the appropriate kings pages and adding quite a lot of full legends to many pages. So the old /SE directory (folder) is now empty, all the blue (links to /SE..) lines on the kings' pages are gone, you click on a coin and it's there instead of jumping over to another folder.
It'll probably take a while for Google's spiders to catch up and realise that their links are out of date, and they'll send me emails complaining about 1,000 dead links... ::)
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UPDATE: I spent Monday, Tuesday and today Wednesday modifying copies (i.e. modifying all the links etc) of all the wildwinds files, and running my trusty Search Engine Composer to make the new wildwinds USB Stick version.
I am not making DVDs any more. Because of all the additions over the past few years, the capacity of the wildwinds files have now exceeded the max. capacity of a DVD, so I am putting them on 16 Gb USB sticks instead, and can also add more useful pdfs.
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Wildwinds is possibly the most useful site on the Internet for ancient coin identification and I thank you so much. I use it a lot. What do you do with the USB's of the site? Is this for offline viewing or is there more to it as you mentioned the ability to add pdfs. Inquiring minds want to know. And thank you again for such a valuable resource.
Virgil
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Virgil: Instead of selling the website for offline use, on DVDs as I was doing until January this year, I now sell the offline version on usb sticks instead. This is handy for people who, for example, have a laptop, PC or notebook in areas with a poor or slow internet connection, (e.g. archaeologists on field work) or who take their notebook to coin fairs, or simply to have a backup.
There is an ad amongst the wildwind banners to buy it, otherwise you can go straight to it here:
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/contribute.html
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Thank you for the explanation. I may buy one or just make a donation to help support it. I think it would be a nice thing to have.
Regards,
Virgil
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My apologies to anyone who was getting an "insecure connection" or "Potential Security Risk" or similar message (depending on your browser) this morning on the https:.. version of wildwinds. The server people wrote to me:
The SSL Certificate should have been automatically renewed but due to recent issues with one of cPanel's SSL issuers this was not the case. I have switched your server to use LetsEncrypt which has now issued an SSL certificate as expected. The same issue should not re-occur in future
It was happening between ca. 04:30 a.m. and 13:00 hrs English time today. So sorry about that !
Dane
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I wanted to look at a DVD the other day, and realized none of my four laptops has a DVD player. Good idea to switch to USB.
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I had never a noticed a "donate" link on WW previously.
I just went out and made a donation via PayPal.
I too find it an absolutely indispensable tool for attribution and researching for a given coin.
Craig
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Dane,
While I have no problems using the site, I get a security warning every time I use the search function. I just click on "go anyway" because I know the site is fine. It may be off putting to others to see that. I always assumed the site just wasn't using https and, when I just checked, I see it still isn't and it is labeled as insecure. Not a problem since you aren't doing things that require security. I didn't even realize there was an https version. Now I know. But the search function is still not secure even using the https version based on my quick test just now. The difference is that the search box tells you the form is not secure before you enter search parameters. Once clicking to run the search, you still get the security warning. It is no big deal, but thought I would let you know. I love Wildwinds and use it all the time.
Joe, you can get an external DVD player for almost nothing that has a USB connection. I still use music Cds, so having a player is essential for me.
Thanks,
Virgil
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Virgil
See my note above about the security error.
It looks like your computer or whatever you are using is still using this morning's error page.
So you need to clear your cache.
Alternately, type in the following - DO NOT USE AUTO-COMPLETE
https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/index.html
You might have to use the reload button a couple times to force your pc to reload the new page and not the error page. Some browsers need the CTRL F5, or SHIFT F5 buttons.
I have had reports from other people who were seeing the security error thing and after forcing a reload, it was all back to normal again.
This is the problem with new browsers (since the mid 1990s) - "for your convenience and browsing enjoyment" they automatically set "fetch the page from my cache", which is ridiculous, especially with pages which change a lot (I am forever telling people to force a reload when I tell them their coin is now on Wildwinds, but they can't see it).
I need to see whether there is a one-liner that I can add to the nearly 7,000 html pages bit by bit which would automatically force a reload.
So force a reload and/or clear your cache of Monday's wildwinds pages and it should work. Please report back.
Dane
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Hi Dane,
Thanks for your response. I will try it, but what I described is how Wildwinds has always worked for me on every computer I have ever used it on. I don't think I ever tried to force it to use the https address before today. Which is probably six or seven various laptops and desktops over many years. It doesn't really bother me, but I thought I would report my experience in light of your post about the security issue.
Virgil
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hi there looking to id some coins I have.
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Jake - you can either
- post good, clear SHARP images with any surrounding empty areas cropped away, to the Identification Help section here on Forvm, or
- compare them with coins on wildwinds if you can read who the emperor or Greek city is
- or look on other coin identification sites such as acsearch
- or look on the RPC website if the coin is a Provincial coin from the early emperors (RPC have most provincial coins from a large number of emperors but not e.g. Septimius Severus and family nor Gallienus and family yet)
- You can send me an email - my email address is in my profile.
But this Wildwinds section is not actually the right place to ask for coin identification.
Dane
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Just a heads up on my current Spring Cleaning .. I have decided to tackle all the multiple example entries of RIC coins - one emperor had, for example, 11 example of the same RIC entry and 10 of those coins were awful, from the early days of the internet (20098/2009) when space was at a premium, so the coins were either very small, or they were in very poor condition. (Wildwinds founder Dave Surber, bless his memory, used to add every example he found on ebay back then)
This deletion and/or replacement by nicer examples also requires having to change those blasted Sear5 entries (I would love to delete the entire Sear5 folder, which is more work and trouble than it is worth, but I know that some smaller sellers primarily use Sear, so use that folder to look up coins)..
So if you see a Sear page you have visited before, but which now shows blank entries, you just need to use Reload page a couple of times to force a reload, instead of using the old page from your cache.
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Thanks for all the hard work, Dane. We appreciate it. +++
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Indeed!
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I like people to ask me when they want to use images from wildwinds for theses, articles, book covers, TV programs (!), etc and usually it is no problem, unless it is an image I had to pay for, or the museum or owner has given me exclusive permission.
I received an email yesterday which got me so angry, I was shaking... (I marked some parts below in bold text)
My name is [name removed] and I am anamateur coin collector from Greece. For 48 years, I worked as a doctor (PlasticSurgeon). Since my retirement, I have written books about ancient Greek coins.
Specifically, I have written seven issuesof approximately 200 pages each, concerning ancient Greek coins with images exclusively sourced from Wildwinds.
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If you would be interested in the publication of these books, and could provide support in this process (specifically by identifying a suitable publishing house for these volumes and shouldering the expenses related to the publicity, printing, and distribution of these books), I would be more than happy to receive your feedback.
So this bloke, who apparently has absolutely no respect for other peoples' work, flaunts copyright law, steals my unpaid work and images - many of them contributed by of a lot of Forum members - has the b****y audacity not only to brag about it, but to ask me to pay for his plagiarism !!!???
He should be ashamed of himself.
I sent him a suitable reply ;D
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Damn, why did he do all that work without even asking for permission first???? And then he contacts you like that???? Wow.
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Truly unbelievable!
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We have to look on the other side of the medal too; you didn’t ask the permission of the engravers of the coins before putting the pictures of their creations on your site, so why should he ask for yours ???
DT
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I keep a list of people who ask my permission to use coin images. Not for "Big Sister/Big Brother" reasons, but sometimes it's nice to be able to contact someone and ask how successful their thesis went, or contact them for some other reason. In any case, to be on the safe side before I wrote back to him, I checked my list and this man has never contacted me in the past.
I have seven people in the list (all marked in red and with a "NO"note) who wanted to copy entire sections of wildwinds - one wanted to copy every single provincial coin on wildwinds for his own website (and what would then be the point of upkeeping wildwinds?), another wanted to use every image and txt file of every Jewish coin for a book he was writing.... you'd be surprised, but at least they asked...
I still cannot get over the utter gall of this man. My gawd, it's like stealing a car then asking the owner to pay for the registration and insurance so that the thief can drive it ::).
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Truly unbelievable the gall of some people. Unbelievably clueless and rude. Most of us here have at least some idea of how much work you put into Wildwinds and all of us know how useful it it.
Cheers,
Virgil
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We have to look on the other side of the medal too; you didn’t ask the permission of the engravers of the coins before putting the pictures of their creations on your site, so why should he ask for yours ???
DT
I have written permission from the sellers of every single coin - all 78,000 of them - on wildwinds. If you mean the actual engravers from 1,000-2,000 years ago, that is just being ridiculous and is not the same at all. ::)
So I presume from your comment that you think it is OK for him to have copied all my work ?
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ironie:Manière de se moquer (de qqn ou de qqch.) en disant le contraire de ce qu'on veut exprimer. It was just a little JOKE ! Sorry you didn’t find it funny. And by the way, Din x just wanted to help…
DT
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My apologies to everyone who, since early September, have submitted coins to be added to wildwinds. It has been a ridiculous time with one thing and another, house and roof installations, inspections, visitors galore, now the installation of this new PC with the horrible Windows 10 (the setup of colours for the screen etc used to be sooooo simple and now you get a choice of two - dark or light, whichever I select I still have the apparently unchangeable glaring white background), etc etc. Anyway, I haven't had a chance to catch up on the uploads for 6-7 weeks. I will try to get them all online by the end of October.
Ancient and Medieval Coin Identification Help => Topic started by: helvetica on December 06, 2009, 04:11:45 pm