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Numismatic and History Discussion Forums => Medieval, Islamic and Crusader Coins Discussion Forum => Topic started by: kameleon on December 24, 2006, 09:54:31 pm

Title: Mahmud II
Post by: kameleon on December 24, 2006, 09:54:31 pm

Firs coin is 1223AH Mahmud II 3 year  1/4 zeri, and secon one is 1223AH Mahmud II 31 probably again 1/4 zeri.
Can you tell me where did they minted? And I m interested in second coin, there are minted small marks on the coin what are they mean?

Title: Re: Mahmud II
Post by: kameleon on December 24, 2006, 09:56:05 pm

And second one...

Title: Re: Mahmud II
Post by: kameleon on December 24, 2006, 09:56:42 pm

Marks...

Title: Re: Mahmud II
Post by: Manzikert on December 25, 2006, 05:29:08 pm

Hi

Both coins were struck in Istanbul (constantinyeh). The marks are modern hallmarks, but I don't know where from: I only have a book on silver marks, not gold.

Best wishes

Alan

Title: Re: Mahmud II
Post by: mernumis on December 31, 2006, 12:36:07 pm

Ufortunatelly the second coin is a forgery...These coins were made for jewellery purposes... The hallmark you see is the jewellery makers halmark. You can research the coin in detail from www.osmanliparalari.com or zeno.ru
and also a real copy from my collection is below... Happy new year, Frank.

Title: Re: Mahmud II
Post by: Sultani on January 10, 2007, 01:20:39 am

As Mernumis reported, the coin is made for jewellery purpose. This kind of fake coins are called "penez". You can see some more sample here

http://www.osmanliparalari.com/yazi/penez/penezTR1.htm

I will publish english translation within a week.