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Numismatic and History Discussions => Medieval, Islamic and Crusader Coins => Topic started by: kameleon on December 24, 2006, 07:54:31 pm



Title: Mahmud II
Post by: kameleon on December 24, 2006, 07:54:31 pm
Firs coin is 1223AH Mahmud II 3 year  1/4 zeri, and secon one is 1223AH Mahmud II 31 probably again 1/4 zeri.
Can you tell me where did they minted? And I m interested in second coin, there are minted small marks on the coin what are they mean?


Title: Re: Mahmud II
Post by: kameleon on December 24, 2006, 07:56:05 pm
And second one...


Title: Re: Mahmud II
Post by: kameleon on December 24, 2006, 07:56:42 pm
Marks...


Title: Re: Mahmud II
Post by: Manzikert on December 25, 2006, 03:29:08 pm
Hi

Both coins were struck in Istanbul (constantinyeh). The marks are modern hallmarks, but I don't know where from: I only have a book on silver marks, not gold.

Best wishes

Alan


Title: Re: Mahmud II
Post by: mernumis on December 31, 2006, 10:36:07 am
Ufortunatelly the second coin is a forgery...These coins were made for jewellery purposes... The hallmark you see is the jewellery makers halmark. You can research the coin in detail from www.osmanliparalari.com or zeno.ru
and also a real copy from my collection is below... Happy new year, Frank.


Title: Re: Mahmud II
Post by: Sultani on January 09, 2007, 11:20:39 pm
As Mernumis reported, the coin is made for jewellery purpose. This kind of fake coins are called "penez". You can see some more sample here

http://www.osmanliparalari.com/yazi/penez/penezTR1.htm

I will publish english translation within a week.