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Title: Better broken or low grade?
Post by: Basileus Nikephoros Antialcidas on April 30, 2019, 08:49:52 am
Hello! I would like to ask your opinion on what a collector should choose. If there is a coin (a tetradrachm for me) you would like to purchase and is very expensive in xf condition and you can find it in much lower price in vf and also in the same price in xf with also a good strike but it has not really a big, but big enough piece broken, but with the piece given with the coin. What would be the preference by the majority of the collectors, is a broken coin really that bad? Thank you all for your help!
Title: Re: Better broken or low grade?
Post by: djmacdo on April 30, 2019, 12:00:49 pm
Each to his own.  I hate a broken coin.  Others may have different opinion.  I rather own a more common coin in better condition.
Title: Re: Better broken or low grade?
Post by: Altamura on April 30, 2019, 12:10:56 pm
This is something each one has to decide for himself, there are no official norms  :-\.

But I don't like broken coins neither.

Regards

Altamura
Title: Re: Better broken or low grade?
Post by: Canaan on April 30, 2019, 01:19:21 pm
I recently bought a broken Julius Caesar denarius that is on my top wish list for a great price and if not broken i can never acquire it!!!!
Title: Re: Better broken or low grade?
Post by: quadrans on April 30, 2019, 02:25:44 pm
Sometimes a rare coin or coin version does not exist only in a broken or hollow state, but it is still a small piece of history... ;) +++
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https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-113153
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-119515
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-105268
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-108897
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-101004
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etc...

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Title: Re: Better broken or low grade?
Post by: mauseus on April 30, 2019, 02:52:21 pm
Hi,
The advice you will always see is buy the best you can. The decision will have to always be yours, can you live with it. I  collect coins of Carausius and have a number of worn (but clearly identifiable) pieces, as well as broken coins.

Unless you have very deep pockets compromises will always need to be made. You just have to accept that not everybody will follow your accession criteria and both worn and broken coins can be more difficult to sell. If you can live with them and they tell a story in the collection you are trying to put together, so long as you understand the limitations, the answer is either.

Regards,

Mauseus
Title: Re: Better broken or low grade?
Post by: Meepzorp on May 01, 2019, 06:35:46 am
Hi SV,

I agree with the other posters here, who basically feel that it is a personal preference. Personally, I don't like a broken coin either. And I would rather have an unbroken VF coin than a broken XF coin.

But, sometimes, an opportunity comes along, and you buy a broken coin. For me, that very rarely happens. In fact, off the top of my head, I can think of only one broken coin I purchased.

This is the coin (scroll down, third coin):

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/meepzorp/g_syria_sel_pt03.htm

The fact that it is broken is the very reason I have it. If it wasn't broken, I probably wouldn't own that issue - because it would be so expensive that it wouldn't justify purchasing it.

Meepzorp
Title: Re: Better broken or low grade?
Post by: stevex6 on May 01, 2019, 07:53:01 am
I have gone both routes in the past (I've bought several worn coins and a few higher grade broken examples), yet in the long-run I have always wished that I'd passed on both and waited for an "obvious" choice.

... but yah, I totally understand the need to snag a non-perfect coin when it becomes available in order to fill a hole in your collection (but again, these never end-up being my favourite coins)

Ummm, but if you twist my arm then I'll confess that I usually choose worn over broken ...

... good luck with your tough decision (if you pull the trigger, then please post the winning coin)

 ;)
Title: Re: Better broken or low grade?
Post by: Kevin D on June 12, 2019, 10:51:43 am
With two examples available at the same price, I would choose the ‘lower’ grade unbroken coin.

I am not a ‘complete-ist’, but I do understand collectors who are, and who need to consider a broken coin in order to complete a set.


There are many coins graded VF that are quite attractive. I've seen VF coins that I like more than examples graded EF that are not broken, but have some other problem (i.e. die wear, die shift, centering, etc.)

If a coin has broken once, it could break again.
Title: Re: Better broken or low grade?
Post by: Brennos on June 15, 2019, 01:37:14 pm
I have a coin that is both low grade and broken. However it's one of my favourite coin and I don't really know why indeed...

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-154652

Title: Re: Better broken or low grade?
Post by: Bill W4 on June 16, 2019, 09:18:43 pm
Each coin is different.  Broken may be okay for some or maybe worn is better.  Depends on the coin and ones  financial circumstances.  Given a choice between broken or worn, I would take worn; but then then again??  Hard call to make I think.  You should do what you're comfortable with and find a coin that you don't look at and always wish you had a hadn't bought it.