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Numismatic and History Discussions => Roman Coins => Topic started by: COINS FAN on February 10, 2019, 01:29:05 pm



Title: Draped or not?
Post by: COINS FAN on February 10, 2019, 01:29:05 pm
Hello,

I have hard to classify this coin: Cuirassed only or draped and cuirassed? (RIC 216)


Title: Re: Draped or not?
Post by: Jochen on February 10, 2019, 03:31:41 pm
The shoulder strap proves that it is a bust, draped and cuirassed,

Best regards


Title: Re: Draped or not?
Post by: COINS FAN on February 10, 2019, 06:44:43 pm
Thank you,

therefore what is a only cuirassed bust for Gordian III? This one is draped too: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2088805

If you look at ac search for Gordian III antioch, absolutly all sale houses misdescribe the bust... right?


Title: Re: Draped or not?
Post by: curtislclay on February 11, 2019, 08:39:23 am
That bust is cuirassed only, in my opinion.

Jochen, what do you mean by the "shoulder strap"?


Title: Re: Draped or not?
Post by: COINS FAN on February 11, 2019, 10:42:48 am
At the first looking, i thinked it was cuirassed only too. I think he is talking about the arc of circle above the shoulder.

For a cuirassed bust, where to look? the little lines on the shoulder can indicate a cuirass but if this point disapeared how we do?


Title: Re: Draped or not?
Post by: curtislclay on February 11, 2019, 11:04:17 am
Apart from the flaps on the shoulder, the scales on the back are also typical for the cuirass.

Also sometimes a Medusa head on the breastplate, when the bust is seen from the front.


Title: Re: Draped or not?
Post by: Jochen on February 11, 2019, 11:29:25 am
That bust is cuirassed only, in my opinion.

Jochen, what do you mean by the "shoulder strap"?

Shoulder strap yellow. But you are right with cuirassed only.

Jochen