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Title: Draped or not?
Post by: COINS FAN on February 10, 2019, 03:29:05 pm

Hello,

I have hard to classify this coin: Cuirassed only or draped and cuirassed? (RIC 216)

Title: Re: Draped or not?
Post by: Jochen on February 10, 2019, 05:31:41 pm

The shoulder strap proves that it is a bust, draped and cuirassed,

Best regards

Title: Re: Draped or not?
Post by: COINS FAN on February 10, 2019, 08:44:43 pm

Thank you,

therefore what is a only cuirassed bust for Gordian III? This one is draped too: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2088805

If you look at ac search for Gordian III antioch, absolutly all sale houses misdescribe the bust... right?

Title: Re: Draped or not?
Post by: curtislclay on February 11, 2019, 10:39:23 am

That bust is cuirassed only, in my opinion.

Jochen, what do you mean by the "shoulder strap"?

Title: Re: Draped or not?
Post by: COINS FAN on February 11, 2019, 12:42:48 pm

At the first looking, i thinked it was cuirassed only too. I think he is talking about the arc of circle above the shoulder.

For a cuirassed bust, where to look? the little lines on the shoulder can indicate a cuirass but if this point disapeared how we do?

Title: Re: Draped or not?
Post by: curtislclay on February 11, 2019, 01:04:17 pm

Apart from the flaps on the shoulder, the scales on the back are also typical for the cuirass.

Also sometimes a Medusa head on the breastplate, when the bust is seen from the front.

Title: Re: Draped or not?
Post by: Jochen on February 11, 2019, 01:29:25 pm

Quote from: curtislclay on February 11, 2019, 10:39:23 am

That bust is cuirassed only, in my opinion.

Jochen, what do you mean by the "shoulder strap"?

Shoulder strap yellow. But you are right with cuirassed only.

Jochen