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Numismatic and History Discussion Forums => Ancient Coin Forum => Topic started by: Nathan P on November 11, 2018, 07:41:56 pm

Title: Question about Celtic coin
Post by: Nathan P on November 11, 2018, 07:41:56 pm

So here is my coin:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6615&pos=11

I want to draw your attention to the edge breaks at 8:00 and 12:00 on the obverse and 9:00 on the reverse. Also on the reverse note the roughed up spot at about 12:30.

I've attached an image of a coin currently available for sale which is not my coin. Although not as pronounced, the coin has the exact same edge breaks and even roughed up spot on the reverse. How can this be? Pretty much every coin like this on acsearch (search "celtic 1095") has the exact same edge breaks/roughness (mine should be the top result 7/29/18 auction) . Not sure what to make of this. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give.

Title: Re: Question about Celtic coin
Post by: Nathan P on November 12, 2018, 02:23:07 pm

This coin type was discussed earlier here.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=116852.0

Does anyone have any additional thoughts on these coins? Thanks...

Title: Re: Question about Celtic coin
Post by: Mark Fox on November 12, 2018, 03:12:19 pm

Dear Nathan & Board,

I am very sorry to inform you, but I also share your grave concerns with the two coins under direct discussion and some of the others you pointed to on ACSearch.  Not only are the coins' designs die-identical and soft looking (at least in regards to your coin), the flan cracks in the exact same locations, and the shape of the flans the same, but there also appear to be real casting bubbles on the reverse of your piece, including one touching the edge at ~3:00.  

Sorry, but I think you are unfortunately correct: your coin is a cast and so are the others, unless one of them is the "mother coin."

Notice, by the way, how all of these coins are suddenly entering the market now.  Another bad sign, when everything else is considered.
 

Sincerely,

Mark Fox
Michigan

Title: Re: Question about Celtic coin
Post by: Nathan P on November 12, 2018, 03:29:51 pm

Thanks for the reply, and I fear you may be right (fortunately I can return the coin for a refund). Should I make a fake coin report or wait for anyone else to weigh in? Joe?

Title: Re: Question about Celtic coin
Post by: Andrew M5 on November 13, 2018, 02:31:35 pm

FAKE

Title: Re: Question about Celtic coin
Post by: Joe Sermarini on December 05, 2018, 08:30:28 am

Quote from: Nathan P on November 12, 2018, 03:29:51 pm

Thanks for the reply, and I fear you may be right (fortunately I can return the coin for a refund). Should I make a fake coin report or wait for anyone else to weigh in? Joe?

If you think you should make a fake coin report, make one. I cannot give an opinion every time. I periodically review reports and comments and delete reports I think were submitted in error.