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Title: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: Stkp on March 18, 2018, 01:14:27 am

I recently visited the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia to see the "Terracota Warriors" exhibit of six life-size figures from the mauseleum of Emperor Qin Shihuang (who died in 210 B.C.E.) in Xi’an, China. Here is one of my photos:

I see that Joe is now offering quite a few oriental coins. I have a number of oriental albums in my gallery, mostly Qing Dynasty Chinese (which are the only ones that I ever collected systematically). The vast majority were bought for pocket change years ago, when Fischer's Ding was the go-to catalog, with references to Schjöth. This was before David Hartill published his Qing Cash. I still dabble in oriental coins from time to time. I just added this one that I bought from Forum Ancient Coins:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-144864
Vietnam (Annam). Later Lê Dynasty Thánh Tông (1442-1497), Barker 35.1-35.12; Toda 57.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to Barker, and thus have not been able to pinpoint the exact type within Barker 35. If anyone with the book would complete the attribution it would be greatly appreciated.

Stkp

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: quadrans on March 18, 2018, 04:08:50 am

Hi Steve,

The oriental part of your gallery is great and interesting.

Congratulation

Q.

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: Stkp on March 18, 2018, 11:14:23 am

Thank you, Joe

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery -- Recent Forvm Purchases
Post by: Stkp on April 02, 2018, 11:15:15 am

I just bought a bulk lot of unattributed Chinese cash coins from Forvm Ancient Coins. I am having a lot of fun attributing them (accompanied with the usual frustrations in trying to distinguish the subtle differences described by Hartill, especially on less than perfect coins). I will be posting many of them to my gallery in drips and drabs between my other numismatic activities. Among them were five Tang Dynasty Kai Yuans, representing three Hartill sub-types (at least one from each of the early, middle and late periods of the Tang). They are now in my gallery:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-145281 (early, Hartill 14.1)
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-145282 (middle, Hartill 14.4)
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-145283 (late, Hartill 14.8)
Stkp

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: quadrans on April 02, 2018, 03:54:15 pm

Nice group,  :) ;)

Joe

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: Stkp on April 13, 2018, 10:58:26 pm

Tanks, Joe

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: Stkp on April 13, 2018, 10:59:59 pm

From the same lot:
Hartill 16.210 and 16.212; Northern Song Dynasty: Emperor Shen Zong (1068-1085), Reign Title Yuan Feng (1078-1085); Yuan Feng tong bao (seal script; regular and small characters)
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-145567
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-145566
Stkp

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: JBF on April 14, 2018, 08:07:38 pm

I remember George Fischer, he was a great guy in DAWN (Denver Area World Numismatists).  It was nice to see his enthusiasm for Chinese coins, and everything else he collected (Biblical, coins with "George" on them.)  Resquat in Pace.  I diverge, but I do so because I think we would all like to be remembered for our friendship, but also our expertise.  We are all moving through history, these coins however, are history.  I don't collect Chinese, but I did check out this thread because of George.

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: Stkp on April 28, 2018, 03:38:44 pm

I never had the pleasure of meeting George, but your post reminded me of the days when Fischer's Ding was my primary reference for Chinese Cash, as Schjoth was difficult to obtain and David Hartill had not yet published. Pleasant memories... Stkp

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: Stkp on December 18, 2018, 09:41:41 am

It has been something like eight months since I bought a bulk lot of Chinese cash coins from Forvm, and quite some time since I posted any coins from the lot to my gallery. Just this weekend I (finally) posted two more, both Northern Song issues of Zhe Zong (1086-1100) under different reign titles:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-151844 Reign Title Yuan Fu (1098-1100)
and
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-151843 Reign Title Yuan You (1086-1093)

I will try to accelerate the pace of my work on this lot, although it competes with my other numismatic activities. My intention is to post a comprehensive summary of the lot once I am finished.

Stkp

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: Stkp on December 30, 2018, 07:51:00 pm

I recently added five more coins from the bulk lot to my gallery, all Northern Song Dynasty:

Emperor Zhen Zong (998-1022), Reign Title Ming Dao (1032-1033), Hartill 16.82, Schjoth 489
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152106
and
Emperor Ren Zong (1022-1063), Reign Title Huang Song (1039-1054), Hartill 16.114, Schjoth --
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-151969
and
Emperor Zhe Zong (1086-1100), Reign Title Shao Sheng (1094-1097), Hartill 16.291, Schjoth 585 var.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152104
and
Emperor Hui Zong (1101-1125), Reign Title Sheng Song (1101-1106), Hartill 16.377, Schjoth 609
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152092
and
Emperor Hui Zong (1101-1125), Reign Title Sheng Song (1101-1106), Hartill 16.380, Schjoth 609 var.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152089

Due to their dark coloration, they don't photograph well and look better in hand.

Stkp

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: Stkp on January 06, 2019, 08:04:14 am

I recently added another four coins from the bulk lot to my gallery. Three are Northern Song dynasty and one is Ming:

Northern Song:
Emperor Zhen Zong (998-1022), Reign Title Tian Xi (1017-1022), Hartill 16.68, Schjoth 480, Fisher's Ding 893
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152194
Emperor Zhen Zong (998-1022), Reign Title Tian Xi (1017-1022), Hartill 16.70, Schjoth 480 var., Fisher's Ding 894
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152195
and
Emperor Hui Zong (1101-1125), Reign Title Zheng He (1111-1117), Hartill 16.441, Schjoth 635, Fisher's Ding 1071
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152196
and
Ming Dynasty:
Emperor Cheng Zu (1403-1424), Reign Title Yong Le (1403-1424), Hartill 20.121, Schjoth 1166, Fisher's Ding 1958
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-152126

Stkp

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: crawforde on October 20, 2019, 01:46:39 pm

Great stuff!
I will enjoy looking through it.
I’ve been away for quite a while. Glad to see some interest in Chinese cast coins.

Title: Re: A Taste of the Orient/My Oriental Gallery
Post by: Stkp on October 20, 2019, 07:21:40 pm

Welcome back. I haven't been on here much of late. I'm glad that you enjoy the orientals cash coins also. I have more of them from that large lot to post. Someday... Stkp