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Numismatic and History Discussion Forums => Medieval, Islamic and Crusader Coins Discussion Forum => Topic started by: OldMoney on February 11, 2018, 01:54:01 am

Title: Standing Caliph type - Need assistance with full ID #2
Post by: OldMoney on February 11, 2018, 01:54:01 am

I picked up a couple of nice 'Islamic' coins, successfully identifying many of them,
but there are a couple of them that I have found difficult to work out beyond the
basic types, and comparisons with a few broadly similar examples.

This is a Standing Caliph type and from what I can gather, it has a resemblance
to this one (as described):
Umayyad Caliphate. temp. 'Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan. AH 65-86 / AD 685-705. Æ Fals
(23mm, 3.71 g, 6h). Arab-Byzantine Standing Caliph type. Ilya (Jerusalem) mint.
Obv: Caliph standing facing
Rev: Large retrograde m with • and – below;
filistin in Arabic to left, ilya to right.
Goodwin Type 3; SICA I 730-1 var.; DOCAB 93; Album 3545.
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3328785

Is this likely to be correct? What about the mint? Reference?

There is a lot missing, but hopefully enough is still there for a proper identification.

Thanks (again) in advance,

Walter

Title: Re: Standing Caliph type - Need assistance with full ID #2
Post by: Canaan on February 11, 2018, 02:55:42 am

Congrats Walter for yhis rarity your identification is right, here is an example from acsearch:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Filistin&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=

Title: Re: Standing Caliph type - Need assistance with full ID #2
Post by: OldMoney on February 11, 2018, 11:11:38 am

Thanks Canaan,
Is it because it is from Ilya mint that makes it rare?

Walter
(P.S. I think your link is wrong, but I found what you meant)

Title: Re: Standing Caliph type - Need assistance with full ID #2
Post by: Canaan on February 11, 2018, 11:24:42 am

Yes, Ilya (Jerusalem) mint of this issue is rare, i am looking for one my self quit a while now.
Regards.

Title: Re: Standing Caliph type - Need assistance with full ID #2
Post by: OldMoney on February 11, 2018, 05:15:26 pm

Quote from: Canaan on February 11, 2018, 11:24:42 am

Yes, Ilya (Jerusalem) mint of this issue is rare, i am looking for one my self quit a while now.
Regards.

Are you interested in this one?

W.

Title: Re: Standing Caliph type - Need assistance with full ID #2
Post by: bakkar on February 15, 2018, 07:16:03 pm

This is Yunba mint type.