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Title: Unidentified islamic gold coin
Post by: Lentulus Batiatus on August 04, 2017, 07:11:47 am
Hi

I need more information to identify this coin, I think it may be from muslim Spain perhaps the Caliphate of Cordoba or  Almoravid Dynasty.

Measures 25 mm and weighs 3.90 grs.

Thanks in advance



Title: Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
Post by: Sam on August 04, 2017, 07:43:17 am
Almoravid dynasty , Mint Esh' Bilia     (  Seville )
Year 518  AH  
Ruler ; Ali bin Yousef


Title: Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
Post by: Lentulus Batiatus on August 04, 2017, 08:01:59 am
Thanks!!   +++


Title: Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
Post by: Sam on August 04, 2017, 08:16:22 am
You are very welcome.

Just give me sometimes , I want to be be 100% sure about the struck date of  AH 518 .

I circled the ruler name for you .

Ali Bin Yousef   (   means  Ali son of Joseph   علي بن يوسف )



Title: Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
Post by: Sam on August 04, 2017, 08:34:24 am
As they say 4 eyes better than 2 :)

Does this look a match to you ?

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1247303


Title: Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
Post by: Lentulus Batiatus on August 04, 2017, 11:23:03 am
The characters that you encircled seems almost identical, the only difference I see is the sign to the left.

 I have no idea of arabic writing I do not know if my observation helps you

Thanks again   :laugh:


Title: Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
Post by: Sam on August 04, 2017, 11:53:28 am
Alright , I think yours date is   AH 518.

the circled word in Arabic , I read it 8   ثمان
As you know no dots here - on coins for some letters -

Ali bin Yusuf bin Tashfin   ruled from (AH 476 هـ/ AD1083 م AH 537 هـ/ AD1143 م)


Title: Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
Post by: Lentulus Batiatus on August 04, 2017, 01:43:38 pm
OK, date is AH 518 or 1125 AD.

Thanks again  +++


Title: Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
Post by: Sam on August 04, 2017, 07:59:22 pm
You are very welcome , to my eyes looks an 8 .

To tell you the truth I had a doubt to be a 5 , but the 5 written in Arabic has a sin (S ) in the end which has 3 vertical lines like the one in circle 1.
The word in circle 2  has only 2 vertical lines in the end , plus they are not identical.
So as we said   AH 518.

Welcome to FORVM  +++


Title: Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
Post by: Lentulus Batiatus on August 08, 2017, 11:19:17 am
Very explanatory and detailed, thanks Sam  +++


Title: Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
Post by: Sam on August 08, 2017, 01:02:24 pm
Welcome to FORVM , the best website of Ancient coins ever , to learn , buy , and make good friends  +++